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Metal Jesus 10-25-2019 09:01 AM

I bought an Atari Jaguar. WHY NOW? And how does it play?
 


I finally added an Atari Jaguar to my collection and play a handful of new releases on it. But is NOW the right time to do it?

cjrizzo 10-26-2019 10:23 AM

MJ - great video (as always). I had bought a Jaguar directly from Atari while it was in limited release in early Fall, 1993. As an Atari fan that had had every system iteration (outside the 5200), I was looking forward to the hype and potential of this system. Outside of the few exceptional games - AvP was amazing at the time, Wolfenstein, Doom, Iron Soldier and of course Tempest 2000 - there was poor software support. Whatever software was available was very much below average.

I think it's great that there is a community for Jag today, but I really can't wrap my head around collector desirability for this. There is nothing "nostalgic" about this system - the games were mostly awful, the controllers were terrible and the system 's overall quality (especially the JagCD) was poor. The design, as you mentioned, is still pretty sharp - that's about the only thing that's aged well.

I think it's interesting that people are coming around to the system now, but it certainly wasn't because the system was ahead of its time. The interesting bit about the Jag is that it ultimately was one of the last things Atari did under the Tramiel family before they faded into history. Any iteration of the company since the Tramiel family is in name only and the company of Nolan Bushnell pretty died with this system.

brandonjclark 10-26-2019 11:27 AM

These were always the high price, luxury systems when I was growing up. There was no way my parents had money for these.

Inkabodcrane 10-27-2019 01:23 AM

I wanted one of these real bad when I was a kid. They had one on display in the local CompUSA. But they were expensive, at least for me at the time. Pretty cool that people are still making/porting games to it, makes me want it again.

AlfredT 10-27-2019 06:40 AM

What do all the buttons in the center do? Are they assignable as macros, rapid fire etc? Or only used in certain games?

Also, no rygar?

Metal Jesus 10-27-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfredT (Post 2546984)
What do all the buttons in the center do? Are they assignable as macros, rapid fire etc? Or only used in certain games?

I've been told that games like Alien vs Predator use them for weapon swaps, etc... so there are a few games that will use them.

Grumsh 10-27-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfredT (Post 2546984)
What do all the buttons in the center do? Are they assignable as macros, rapid fire etc? Or only used in certain games?

Also, no rygar?

Games came with plastic overlays you could insert into the controller to use those buttons for additional functions. They mostly were pretty assigned by the software and the overlay simply reminded you what they did. Kind of like the classic intellivision.

I still have my Jaguar in the basement and remember how for it's time Alien vs Predator was very awesome.

ElektroDragon 10-27-2019 10:34 PM

I saw this at my friend's house when it first came out, and even then I remember it being the lamest new console I'd ever seen.

Even though it shared the legendary Motorola 68000, it could not match the graphics prowess of my Amiga 500 that had come out SIX YEARS prior!

So it was a bit of a joke to me. And certainly laughable coming after the Genesis which also had the 68K and had come out 5 years prior.

shadow763 10-28-2019 06:24 AM

For unique games, AvP and Iron Soldier were pretty much it. But they were a ton of fun at the time.

sticky 10-29-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cjrizzo (Post 2546949)
MJ - great video (as always). I had bought a Jaguar directly from Atari while it was in limited release in early Fall, 1993. As an Atari fan that had had every system iteration (outside the 5200), I was looking forward to the hype and potential of this system. Outside of the few exceptional games - AvP was amazing at the time, Wolfenstein, Doom, Iron Soldier and of course Tempest 2000 - there was poor software support. Whatever software was available was very much below average.

I think it's great that there is a community for Jag today, but I really can't wrap my head around collector desirability for this. There is nothing "nostalgic" about this system - the games were mostly awful, the controllers were terrible and the system 's overall quality (especially the JagCD) was poor. The design, as you mentioned, is still pretty sharp - that's about the only thing that's aged well.

I think it's interesting that people are coming around to the system now, but it certainly wasn't because the system was ahead of its time. The interesting bit about the Jag is that it ultimately was one of the last things Atari did under the Tramiel family before they faded into history. Any iteration of the company since the Tramiel family is in name only and the company of Nolan Bushnell pretty died with this system.

This 100%.

I finally bought one off Ebay maybe a decade ago as I thought the Jaguar was something special. I was wrong. It sucks.

The games don't hold up at all and the graphics prowess was just hype. Major letdown.

Chief Smash 10-29-2019 03:42 PM

I had a friend who I gamed with constantly and since he had two jobs, he bought pretty much anything that looked interesting, including a Jaguar. The games were just bad and the controllers didn't help. We probably played Kasumi Ninja the most and I can remember the controllers hurting my hands after a relatively short session. We had a lot of patience for even bad games back then but I don't remember the Jaguar lasting very long in his house at all.
As for how collectible it is, it seems that people collect pretty much everything today. The same goes for homebrew. It's almost like some people enjoy developing for some of these systems almost out of a sense of irony but I still think it's pretty cool that they pull off some good efforts. And the hardware does look cool, at least in a 90s way. And that might be the most nostalgic part of this system. It physically hearkens back to a golden age of gaming.

All said, another great video MJ. I don't have to enjoy playing the actual subject matter of your videos to enjoy the videos as this one shows.


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