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Evil Avatar 05-07-2018 06:47 AM

Avengers Infinity War Kills All the Competition at the Box Office
 

Easier than snapping your fingers, Avengers: Infinity War dominated the weekend boxoffice chart for a second week in a row.

Here is the Weekend Boxoffice Chart for the weekend of May 4th to May 6th, 2018.
  1. Avengers: Infinity War $112.4/$450.8
  2. Overboard $14.7/$14.7
  3. A Quiet Place $7.6/$159.8
  4. I Feel Pretty $4.9/$37.7
  5. Rampage $4.6/$84.7
  6. Tully $3.1/$3.1
  7. Black Panther $3,1/$693.1
  8. Truth or Dare $1.8/$38.2
  9. Super Troopers 2 $1.8/$25.4
  10. Bad Samaritan $1.7/$1.7
  11. Blockers $1.6/$56.1
  12. Ready Player One $1.3/$133.0

PacerDawn 05-07-2018 09:41 AM

Finally got to see Infinity War. A lot of it was fun for the most part. Really good action I thought. I actually clapped when Cap appeared. And good humor as well. Chris Hemsworth is definitely the star of these films. They give him the best lines and he delivers them spot-on. I think he has surpassed RDJ, who's shtick gets really tiring after a while. And Tom Holland is still an excellent Spider Man. I love the high-school attitude, which is more along the lines of the original character. And he had one really good emotional scene as well.

However, while these movies have become "fun" movies, but this one tried to mix "fun" with incredible depression. You go from one scene that is really emotional and sad to another where they are suddenly cracking jokes. That was a bit jarring. And the ending? Some of the audience actually booed at the end (probably because, well, reel 1).

Also, the plot hole with the infinity gauntlet powers and time stone are WAY too big to ignore. Thanos has 2 stones in the glove (given away in the trailer) and when he uses those stones, he looks unstoppable. Yet then in the next scene he fights rather than using them? What? Maybe if it was some kind of character development that would make sense, but they never gave a hint at that when he didn't use the glove. It would have been easy too. Raise the glove, look at it, say "nah", and then fight. Or something like that. At least in one of the fights they kept trying to keep him from using the glove. I'm not sure why, though, he didn't seem to use it very much anyway. All during the movie I kept saying "he could have just used the glove there, why didn't he?" I think that was my main gripe.

Before the movie, they showed the latest trailer for Jurassic World. If you are going to see Jurassic World, DO NOT WATCH THAT TRAILER! LEAVE THE THEATER IF IT COMES ON. They freaking spoil the movie and show the entire thing. They even show parts of scenes out of order. The last part of the trailer was supposed to build tension, but earlier they showed what happens next! Jeez, these guys are amateurs...

JazGalaxy 05-07-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PacerDawn (Post 2511813)
Finally got to see Infinity War. A lot of it was fun for the most part. Really good action I thought. I actually clapped when Cap appeared. And good humor as well. Chris Hemsworth is definitely the star of these films. They give him the best lines and he delivers them spot-on. I think he has surpassed RDJ, who's shtick gets really tiring after a while. And Tom Holland is still an excellent Spider Man. I love the high-school attitude, which is more along the lines of the original character. And he had one really good emotional scene as well.

However, while these movies have become "fun" movies, but this one tried to mix "fun" with incredible depression. You go from one scene that is really emotional and sad to another where they are suddenly cracking jokes. That was a bit jarring. And the ending? Some of the audience actually booed at the end (probably because, well, reel 1).

Also, the plot hole with the infinity gauntlet powers and time stone are WAY too big to ignore. Thanos has 2 stones in the glove (given away in the trailer) and when he uses those stones, he looks unstoppable. Yet then in the next scene he fights rather than using them? What? Maybe if it was some kind of character development that would make sense, but they never gave a hint at that when he didn't use the glove. It would have been easy too. Raise the glove, look at it, say "nah", and then fight. Or something like that. At least in one of the fights they kept trying to keep him from using the glove. I'm not sure why, though, he didn't seem to use it very much anyway. All during the movie I kept saying "he could have just used the glove there, why didn't he?" I think that was my main gripe.

Before the movie, they showed the latest trailer for Jurassic World. If you are going to see Jurassic World, DO NOT WATCH THAT TRAILER! LEAVE THE THEATER IF IT COMES ON. They freaking spoil the movie and show the entire thing. They even show parts of scenes out of order. The last part of the trailer was supposed to build tension, but earlier they showed what happens next! Jeez, these guys are amateurs...

I donít know, man. I donít believe that a character not doing something that you think they should do qualifies as a plot hole.

I loooved Infinity War. Top to bottom, credits to credits, I thought it was an astonishing achievement and pure joy. It didnít even feel like a movie. It felt like being INSIDE a comic book.

vallor 05-07-2018 12:14 PM

I saw Infinity War and while it was a well crafted movie in every respect I really didn't like it.

For every victory there were 15 losses. There's a reason people can only watch some movies, like Gravity, so many times. That sort of one-after-another-gut-punch gets old. Of course we have spoilers already in the upcoming MCU and Sony movie release schedule so we know at least half will be taken back.

Like I said, the movie was well crafted. The CGI, the acting, the story was all top notch (with the exception of inconsistency of when Thanos would decide what would be a trivial use of the infinity gauntlet) but it isn't like The First Avenger or some of the others that I'll watch over and over.

MADxMrMike 05-07-2018 12:14 PM

Yeah it was good. Thanos was fun to watch. All of the characters interacting with each other. I liked the ending personally and leaves me wanting more which, to me, is the perfect setup for the next one. Seen it twice already. May go watch it again.

Chimpbot 05-07-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PacerDawn (Post 2511813)
Also, the plot hole with the infinity gauntlet powers and time stone are WAY too big to ignore. Thanos has 2 stones in the glove (given away in the trailer) and when he uses those stones, he looks unstoppable. Yet then in the next scene he fights rather than using them? What? Maybe if it was some kind of character development that would make sense, but they never gave a hint at that when he didn't use the glove. It would have been easy too. Raise the glove, look at it, say "nah", and then fight. Or something like that. At least in one of the fights they kept trying to keep him from using the glove. I'm not sure why, though, he didn't seem to use it very much anyway. All during the movie I kept saying "he could have just used the glove there, why didn't he?" I think that was my main gripe.

What plot hole?

The Time Stone was the second-to-last one he received, so it wasn't really a factor at all.

If you're referring to his fight with the Hulk, it was pretty evident that Thanos got into a fist fight with him purely for fun; he's a warrior and clearly enjoys a good fight. As for every other major fight, he used the gauntlet pretty frequently. All of those energy blasts he was slinging around where generated by the stones. That time he threw a moon at Stark & Co was also him using the stones. He used 'em all the time.

You spent so much time saying, "He could have just used the glove" that you failed to notice he was actually using it a lot. When he wasn't using the stones, it was because he felt he didn't need to.

excalibur1814 05-07-2018 01:27 PM

The Vision just couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.

MADxMrMike 05-07-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by excalibur1814 (Post 2511834)
The Vision just couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.

I have a theory on that. I believe.. him getting hurt by that blade was a cheap way for him to be sidelined as a fighter. Vision is technically one of the the strongest of the Avengers. He would clean house most of the film and although cool a little boring. Most people want to see all of the characters fight. It is why they pushed Thor off planet till the end and kept The Hulk at bay. And speaking of Hulk they are killing me with his character. The fight between him and Thanos would have been on a whole other level in the comics. Even with the stone Thanos would have a hard time with him. The Hulk, when full on rage, is one of the strongest characters in Marvel. I guess that is kind of the point with him "having issues" so he isn't in full force yet but I am getting tired of it really. We need full power Hulk.

MadMurdock_0311 05-07-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimpbot (Post 2511826)
Thanos got into a fist fight with him purely for fun; he's a warrior and clearly enjoys a good fight. When he wasn't using the stones, it was because he felt he didn't need to.

Chimpbot nailed it: Thanos is a warrior who enjoys fighting. Can you imagine how boring a fight would be if you could just waive your hand and your opponent topples over?

He's one of the more complex villains onscreen that I can think of in recent cinema. I absolutely loved his character. This should have been called "Thanos, the movie. Starring the Avengers".

Spoiler: the people who turned to dust aren't "dead", they're just transported into the soul-stone. I'm betting that this also includes Gamora.

Venkman 05-07-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMurdock_0311 (Post 2511842)
He's one of the more complex villains onscreen that I can think of in recent cinema. I absolutely loved his character. This should have been called "Thanos, the movie. Starring the Avengers".

At the end of the credits where it would normally say "The Avengers will return", it said "Thanos will return"

Nice touch, I thought.

vallor 05-07-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMurdock_0311 (Post 2511842)
Chimpbot nailed it: Thanos is a warrior who enjoys fighting. Can you imagine how boring a fight would be if you could just waive your hand and your opponent topples over?

He's one of the more complex villains onscreen that I can think of in recent cinema. I absolutely loved his character. This should have been called "Thanos, the movie. Starring the Avengers".

Spoiler: the people who turned to dust aren't "dead", they're just transported into the soul-stone. I'm betting that this also includes Gamora.

If I frame the movie as a "Thanos" movie entry into the MCU instead of an "Avengers" movie it makes a better movie, though (spoiler) he doesn't end up with many challenges in his quest as part of the ultimate hero's journey.

I also agree with your spoiler, but (spoiler) not Gamora, I think that might make it a little TOO easy. On the other hand I am pretty sure there is at least supposed to be at least one more Guardians movie and they can't have the Guardians without Gamora which is how it all works out in the end.

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Originally Posted by MADxMrMike (Post 2511841)
(a bunch of spoilers about Vision and Hulk)

Spoilers from here: Vision wasn't just weakened he was totally crippled from the beginning. I hope this means he is gone. He hasn't added anything to the MCU except as another point of failure to point at Tony Stark as the reason for a million deaths.

As for Hulk, Banner spent all of Ragnarok saying "I can't let the Hulk come back he might not never go away again" but now he can't get him back fast enough. This seems incongruent; he needs to make up his damn mind! Or maybe some couples therapy?

VenomUSMC 05-07-2018 04:32 PM

I somewhat buy the idea that Thanos chooses to wield the gauntlet the way he does out of his enjoyment for combat and due to hubris, but I don't fully buy it; especially not after he killed his daughter to obtain the soul stone. The real reason, as with any story, is that the story simply demanded it. I'm also guessing that pulling the glove wouldn't have been a viable win since Thanos may have been able to defeat them all to regain it. I think it would have been a little better if he had done more killing in combat than he did.

JazGalaxy 05-07-2018 05:03 PM

The RUSso's have been pretty overt in saying he that this is Thanos' movie and I think that they do a great job of supporting that's in the film. He isn't the hero of his own story. And rather than just saying that to sound like pretentious artists, they actually show exactly that.

The only negative I have about the entire film Is Thor saying, inexplicably, that Hedall was his best friend. That just struck me as weird. But other than that, I thought it was pitch perfect. I don't think it's a great MOVIE. But I think it transcends the concept of what a movie is. It felt like when I would pull out a big black stack of comics and reread Age Of Appcalypse or x-Cutioner's song. It felt every bit like a comics "event". Even down to the way that there are 3 or so mini stories that all connect like comic titles do in comic book events.

Chimpbot 05-07-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomUSMC (Post 2511848)
I somewhat buy the idea that Thanos chooses to wield the gauntlet the way he does out of his enjoyment for combat and due to hubris, but I don't fully buy it; especially not after he killed his daughter to obtain the soul stone. The real reason, as with any story, is that the story simply demanded it. I'm also guessing that pulling the glove wouldn't have been a viable win since Thanos may have been able to defeat them all to regain it. I think it would have been a little better if he had done more killing in combat than he did.

He didn't realize the cost for the Soul Stone until the moment he was trying to get it. For him, it was all fun and games...until that moment.

Marticus 05-07-2018 11:25 PM

Yeah Do not watch the trailer to jurassic world II park w/e

Big fan of Jurassic Park, saw the newest trailer and was mad. Sure just like the first movie a ton of the plot is given away. But fuck, they really tell the story. BEWARE

Lastly, is this peak Marvel? Can they top this? Nope. I call it, downhill from here.

JazGalaxy 05-08-2018 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by VenomUSMC (Post 2511848)
I somewhat buy the idea that Thanos chooses to wield the gauntlet the way he does out of his enjoyment for combat and due to hubris, but I don't fully buy it; especially not after he killed his daughter to obtain the soul stone. The real reason, as with any story, is that the story simply demanded it. I'm also guessing that pulling the glove wouldn't have been a viable win since Thanos may have been able to defeat them all to regain it. I think it would have been a little better if he had done more killing in combat than he did.

Yeah, but he DOESN'T like killing. That was one of the points of the story. He's a hero, in his mind. He's doing all of this, after all, so that people won't have to suffer and struggle. The fact that he doesn't like killing is largely why he left Thor alive on the ship at the beginning of the film.

Scherge 05-08-2018 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2511873)
Yeah, but he DOESN'T like killing. That was one of the points of the story. He's a hero, in his mind. He's doing all of this, after all, so that people won't have to suffer and struggle. The fact that he doesn't like killing is largely why he left Thor alive on the ship at the beginning of the film.

Welllllll. By that logic, half of the Bond villains are heroes in your book. Also, I think Thanos enjoyed killing well enough - let's not forget the many people that are killed in Thor's stead.

I really liked the movie aside from a few minor complaints (Vision's role, Hulk's role, some weird power level ratios). The way they split up the hero groups to circumvent any fallout from "Civil War" was brillant, I loved Thanos's facial animation, and overall, the film didn't feel two-and-a-half hours long. That's no small feat!

I'm just kinda sad it was part one of two. The ending was perfect in its own way. I know this is never going to happen, but wouldn't it be cool if this particular movie was the last one Marvel ever did? :cool:

Chimpbot 05-08-2018 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2511873)
Yeah, but he DOESN'T like killing. That was one of the points of the story. He's a hero, in his mind. He's doing all of this, after all, so that people won't have to suffer and struggle. The fact that he doesn't like killing is largely why he left Thor alive on the ship at the beginning of the film.

There's a difference between enjoying combat and fighting and enjoying killing. Pulling from one of the most famous examples, characters like Goku are all about fighting and combat...but he doesn't relish killing.

He's given himself a grizzly purpose, but it doesn't mean he can't enjoy it.

PacerDawn 05-08-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2511823)
I donít know, man. I donít believe that a character not doing something that you think they should do qualifies as a plot hole.

I feel that it does when they completely ignore a certain power to make a plot point work. Plot: We need a massive fight and for the warriors to get the glove off of Thanos. To get that scene, we have to ignore the fact that he could have won the battle in the first few seconds with a single stone.

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2511823)
I loooved Infinity War. Top to bottom, credits to credits, I thought it was an astonishing achievement and pure joy. It didnít even feel like a movie. It felt like being INSIDE a comic book.

I agree, overall I thought it was an excellent movie myself. However:

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2511824)
For every victory there were 15 losses. There's a reason people can only watch some movies, like Gravity, so many times. That sort of one-after-another-gut-punch gets old.

I agree with vallor on this. I hate it when a hero does something great only to have it completely undone in the next shot. While that works occasionally, there seemed to be a TON of that in this movie. I eventually stopped caring whenever a hero got the upper hand, because I knew there was a good chance that it wasn't real.

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2511824)
it isn't like The First Avenger or some of the others that I'll watch over and over.

I liken this one to Civil War. Good movie, but depressing and not something you want to watch again and again. And I agree with you about the first one, too. We watched that one the night before we went to see Infinity War.

PacerDawn 05-08-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chimpbot (Post 2511826)
What plot hole?

Let's talk Time Stone: When Vision's stone was destroyed, Thanos used the time stone but it ONLY impacted Vision and nothing else. Thanos didn't revert to where he was before. Wanda didn't revert to shooting at the stone. Vision just came back to life and that was it. So fine, lets assume the effect of the time stone is target-able. Earlier they almost got Thanos's glove off while Strange still had the time stone. Why couldn't he use it to reverse time on just Thanos and get the glove? Reverse time and stop Quill from being a dick? That crap of "I've seen millions of results and only seen one we win" is a cheap plot device to try and sweep away fallacies like this. And that was the ONLY reason that "prediction" scene was in the movie, so we wouldn't question what happened. I personally don't like it.

Also: Doctor Strange: "We are on a ship headed for space! Tony can you fly it? No? What do will we ever do! If only I could reverse time to put us back on Earth, or open a portal back to Earth or something!"

As for the Reality stone:He uses that to instantly take out people and make weapons useless. He could have won the movie with that stone alone. Instead, he uses it sparingly.

And I feel that it is complete incorrect that he didn't use them because he liked to fight. They only said that about the Hulk at the very beginning. People are reading that into the rest to explain why he didn't just use the gauntlet to win every battle. He even complained that he was tired and wanted them as soon as possible so he could rest, which was the very last scene. And if he didn't like using the glove because he liked to fight, why bother with the glove anyway? He was already decimating populations with just his army.

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Originally Posted by Chimpbot (Post 2511826)
You spent so much time saying, "He could have just used the glove" that you failed to notice he was actually using it a lot. When he wasn't using the stones, it was because he felt he didn't need to.

Fine, he used the glove, he just didn't use it right. Because, you don't need energy blasts or moons when you can make everyone around you simply fall to pieces.


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