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Evil Avatar 10-15-2019 06:46 PM

Overwatch Seasonal Event Halloween Terror 2019
 

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The Overwatch Halloween Terror event returns for more spooky fun!

Face off in Junkenstein’s Revenge and compete in new weekly challenges for limited-time rewards—including Mummy Ana, Inferno Junkrat, and Demon Hunter Sombra. Join the event to unlock hair-raising seasonal skins, emotes, highlight intros, player icons, sprays, and more.

Get Spooked: Blizz.ly/OHT2019

RAV 10-15-2019 08:12 PM

Haha, Blizzard is canceling all kinds of events and shutting down interviews with players, turning off match cams, etc. There was a big event planned for the release of Overwatch on Switch. All canceled. they are trying to put their head into the sand until it blows over. But there will be so much funny shit coming in the weeks. Blizzcon will be a total melt down. It is rumored that Blizzard plans big announcements this Blizzcon to make up for the disaster of last Blizzcon. This shit will rain on the parade. And it will be so much fun to watch, can't wait.

I read a funny comment somewhere: "Blizzard is digging their hole so deep, they might reach China."

brandonjclark 10-16-2019 06:09 AM

I uninstalled Battle.net last week.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-16-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonjclark (Post 2546310)
I uninstalled Battle.net last week.

Yup same I am done with Blizzard. I have bin a fan since I sent snail mail in to get a Warcraft 1 demo disk.

vallor 10-16-2019 03:18 PM

Blizzard fucked themselves big time.

You don't get to have high moral standards only when it's safe (like supporting US Pride events) and get away with it.

Blizzcon is going to be awesome, especially if they mention anything that might be related to China or a design decision made to curry favor with the Chinese.

Chief Smash 10-16-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2546338)
Blizzard fucked themselves big time.

You don't get to have high moral standards only when it's safe (like supporting US Pride events)

I've been a Blizzard fan since back in the Silicon and Synapse days but I have to admit that I'm taking a little pleasure in their squirming here and it's exactly because of this.

ElektroDragon 10-16-2019 10:44 PM

The fake news about the Russians controlling the POTUS is meant to distract from the fact that China secretly controls all our corporations.

MadMurdock_0311 10-16-2019 11:21 PM

Thing is, this isn't Blizzard of old. They combined with Activision in 2008, and have gone downhill since. I'm not even sure how many original members remain. One? Two? None?

It would have been better if their studio was shuttered, like EA did to Westwood Studios (and many others). "Better to burn out than to fade away" and all that. I'm guessing the dumpster fire that they are will fade out fairly soon. Writing's on the wall.

Chief Smash 10-17-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMurdock_0311 (Post 2546358)
Thing is, this isn't Blizzard of old. They combined with Activision in 2008, and have gone downhill since.

I never quite bought that it was Activision that did Blizzard in. I feel like they're a victim of their own success as much as anything else.

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Originally Posted by MadMurdock_0311 (Post 2546358)
I'm not even sure how many original members remain. One? Two? None?

This is a big deal though. And maybe this is a result of Activision taking over after all. Blizz was a lot more fun when they were a small company run by a bunch of talented young hungry guys. As much as I loved WoW, I think it changed the company too much and the new culture sort of pushed a lot of the old guard out. But maybe it was Activision's culture seeping in or maybe a combination of both.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-17-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2546352)
The fake news about the Russians controlling the POTUS is meant to distract from the fact that China secretly controls all our corporations.

"fake news" is old Soviet dezinformatsiya disinformation is a translation of a Russian word.

https://www.rand.org/topics/information-operations.html

vallor 10-17-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMurdock_0311 (Post 2546358)
Thing is, this isn't Blizzard of old. They combined with Activision in 2008, and have gone downhill since. I'm not even sure how many original members remain. One? Two? None?

It would have been better if their studio was shuttered, like EA did to Westwood Studios (and many others). "Better to burn out than to fade away" and all that. I'm guessing the dumpster fire that they are will fade out fairly soon. Writing's on the wall.

It doesn't matter, even with the Activision brain worm infecting them Blizzard always nominally stood on the right side with gamers.

Over the last few years that veneer has been falling off and with this China thing they lose even the loose pretense they are in it for the games and gamers.

They had better rock socks with their announcements this year at Blizzcon, especially after the "You all have a phone, right" Diablo immortal otherwise they're going to be come just another dev we can't trust. Like Bioware who used to have a steller rep but has now squandered it.

vallor 10-17-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Smash (Post 2546370)
I never quite bought that it was Activision that did Blizzard in. I feel like they're a victim of their own success as much as anything else.


This is a big deal though. And maybe this is a result of Activision taking over after all. Blizz was a lot more fun when they were a small company run by a bunch of talented young hungry guys. As much as I loved WoW, I think it changed the company too much and the new culture sort of pushed a lot of the old guard out. But maybe it was Activision's culture seeping in or maybe a combination of both.

Blizzard hasn't been a small company since the mid-2000s.

On the other hand they can pick up a chinese fan for every lost western fan and be more profitable for it so what the fuck do they care? They may as well drop the premise of giving any shits and just say "Fuck you, there are more people in china playing our game than the entire population of the US, so eat shit."

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-17-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2546415)
It doesn't matter, even with the Activision brain worm infecting them Blizzard always nominally stood on the right side with gamers.

Over the last few years that veneer has been falling off and with this China thing they lose even the loose pretense they are in it for the games and gamers.

They had better rock socks with their announcements this year at Blizzcon, especially after the "You all have a phone, right" Diablo immortal otherwise they're going to be come just another dev we can't trust. Like Bioware who used to have a steller rep but has now squandered it.

Diablo Immortal was the first sign something was wrong a phone game made mostly for the Chinese market we should have know.

actusoul 10-18-2019 12:24 PM

HEY!!! FYI Apex Legends also has a Halloween event. Its great.

vallor 10-18-2019 05:52 PM

I am betting at Blizzcon they have a rule that says "no talking about 'disruptive' or 'sensitive' subjects" at risk of getting kicked out.

Chief Smash 10-18-2019 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2546472)
I am betting at Blizzcon they have a rule that says "no talking about 'disruptive' or 'sensitive' subjects" at risk of getting kicked out.

Well they're going to have to kick out a lot of people during their high profile announcements. This Blizzcon is rumored to be a very big one but even as a (former?) Blizz fan, I'm looking forward to seeing them squirm a bit. It's easy to milk points from your hipster fans when you make Soldier 76 or Tracer gay. But when you have people taking a stand against your favorite bank account, it gets a little more interesting.

Evil Avatar 10-18-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by actusoul (Post 2546459)
HEY!!! FYI Apex Legends also has a Halloween event. Its great.

Thanks for the reminder. I bookmarked the link when I was at lunch and I forgot to post it when I got home.

Sensei-X 10-18-2019 11:17 PM

You know, it's funny reading the posts of people still posting about this 'controversy" on Twitter and MMO Champ. On one hand they are having a shit-fit over the alleged influence of Tencent on Blizzard's decision to ban blitzchung, while at the same time gleefully cheering on other companies that Tencent has a much larger stake in.

Just 3 days ago the same people boycotting Blizzard were cheering on Fortnite Season 2 (Epic is 40% owned by Tencent) and then again were cheering the Riot Games announcement of 7 new titles in development (Riot is 100% owned by Tencent) despite Riot having posted this on thei official e-sports twitter:

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As we near this weekend's League of Legends World Championship Group stage, I want to take a moment to speak clearly about how we approach sensitive topics on Riot's broadcasts.

As a general rule, we want to keep our broadcasts focused on the game, the sport, and the players. We serve fans from many different countries and cultures, and we believe this opportunity comes with a responsibility to keep personal views on sensitive issues (political, religious, or otherwise) separate. These topics are often incredibly nuanced, require deep understanding and a willingness to listen, and cannot be fairly represented in the forum our broadcast provides. Therefore, we have reminded our casters and pro players from discussing any of these topics on air.

Our decision also reflects that we have Riot employees and fans in regions where there has been (or there is risk of) political and/or social unrest, including places like Hong Kong. We believe we have a responsibility to do our best to ensure that statements or actions on our official platforms (intended or not) do not escalate potentially sensitive situations.

-John Needham, Global Head of League of Legends Esports
Not only did these companies get a pass, in Epic's case because they made it clear it that they wouldn't ban you for speaking about HK (though they conveniently stopped short of saying they wouldn't cut them off during any broadcasts if they did). But in Riot's case they were being cheered on for their "transparency" about the rules and given a pass because they haven't actually censored anyone (yet). Seems like the people saying this has "degenerated into yet another SJW dumpster fire" are probably right.

RAV 10-19-2019 12:36 AM

You are completely wrong. People are condemning any company behaving like this. I know I don't give anyone a pass on it.
Many companies are being called out for their bullshit, like the NBA, Disney, etc. There are entire lists of companies and their failures on the matter.

However, some companies are in a particular focus, because although they now claim to want avoid politics in their games, they have demonstrably brought in politics themselves in the past, whenever it was convenient for them. At least some companies who claim that, actually have avoided it at any case in the past, so are in less trouble now.

Otherwise, even though they may have stated their policies and may have Chinese investors, if they haven't yet actually banned anyone, it is silly to condemn them in advance, without a particular case of contention. Although many people are certainly expressing their overall mistrust in the situation.

It is true that this is becoming a widespread problem, but you cannot expect everyone to bring in every issue all the time. It is by case as it arises. Like personally, just because I haven't called out Riot yet, doesn't mean I am their fan and agree with them, it just means there hasn't been an appropriate opportunity yet in the news to discuss them. And just because there are some people giving other companies a pass, doesn't mean the whole problem is a farce.

Right now, Blizzard deserves special attention, because their case so far has been especially appalling. I also think that there is not much "nuanced" and "deep" about the issue. It is pretty damn straightforward for any decent person, really. People in China are getting imprisoned, tortured and murdered for speaking their mind. There are concentration camps for millions. And now they get persecuted even by "our own" companies. There is only one right side on the issue.


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