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Inkabodcrane 10-08-2019 08:00 PM

Blizzard suspends Blitzchung from Hearthstone Competition for supporting Hong Kong
 
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The Chinese censorship news seems to keep bubbling up more and more to the surface of mainstream consciousness, if not in the political field at least under the column of media entertainment. The latest controversy to arise surrounding the Communist antics of the mainland is that Blizzard Entertainment has suspended the Hong Kong player, Ng “blitzchung” Wai Chung, for making pro-Hong Kong comments during a post-game interview during the Asia Pacific Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament.

...

Basically, even listening to someone publicly proclaim their support for the Hong Kong protestors in their fight for freedom can literally cost you your job.

As Breslau pointed out, the two casters hid under the desk when blitzchung yelled out “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age!”

They giggled at the outburst but didn’t further politicize the moment. Blizzard, however, removed the VOD from their Twitch channel, and then followed that up by suspending blitzchung and firing the casters.

This comes shortly on the heels of China banning South Park for criticizing their censorship policies, and for pointing out how the NBA and Hollywood have been bending the knee to the Chinese State party.
Via OneAngryGamer

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Since Blizzard's decision to ban Ng Wai "blitzchung" Chung for a year after proclaiming support for Hong Kong's liberation movement during an official stream, many online have criticized the company's decision. The r/Hearthstone subreddit is filled with accounts of fans expressing support for Chung and those who say they're quitting the game in solidarity.
The r/Blizzard subreddit has even been locked down, presumably in response to the heated discussions that are occurring within the community. The subreddit is currently an invite-only subreddit, and is inaccessible for the time being.
Via IGN

vallor 10-08-2019 09:35 PM

The rules were broken, he'll have to suck it up. I thank him for his sacrifice.
After all, down in section 6 of the 3 point font document they throw up it CLEARLY says:

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Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in addition to other remedies which may be provided for under the Handbook and Blizzard’s Website Terms.
Emphasis mine.

So better not leave your mic on while making cow farting noises. It could trigger some Eco-nut who has pull at Blizzard.

I hope someone picks him up but, lets face it, no one wants to go against our $ino-overlords. Too much money to lose!

AlfredT 10-08-2019 09:40 PM

Yea they must've figured that any backlash would be a marginal loss of profits to pissing off China. Still very disappointing.

Meeks 10-08-2019 10:10 PM

Activision-Blizzard, like the NBA, demonstrates strong moral flexibility when one of their revenue streams is at risk.

VideoMike101 10-08-2019 10:27 PM

I will never play a Blizzard game again.

Exodus 10-08-2019 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VideoMike101 (Post 2545781)
I will never play a Blizzard game again.

and then they announce diablo 4 and all is forgiven.

of course this blizzcon better have that announcement followed by the "You can play it next week" or people are going to shit all over them

VideoMike101 10-08-2019 10:45 PM

Divine Destiny is better.

vallor 10-09-2019 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 2545782)
and then they announce diablo 4 and all is forgiven.

Maybe he doesn't have a phone!

Rommel 10-09-2019 02:54 AM

I'll just be here, in Cheung Sha Wan, being very, very quiet but staring intently. And which side of the issue I fall on is up to you.

ministryofwrath 10-09-2019 03:27 AM

Kong kong.


I love near hong kong.

And they should be ashamed of themselves for being racist bastards.


They continue to say they aren't "chinese" yet they are by DNA and blood.

They continue to ask for help from other places, yet, when they come to the west, they are the first to cry racism and change the local culture to their own rather than embracing the new culture.

No, I don't think it's ok to send people from my country who are called "racist" and "scum" and "selfish" to go fight and die for a country full of people that will cry the same thing in a few generations of setting foot on our soil.


I think it's time for my own people to fight and die in a civil war and win back their country.

And that's how I feel about that.


No, I'm not Chinese.

Besides the point, if we're going to start getting morality and honor again, Korea should be on the radar for "saving" not hong kong.

Phoenix1985 10-09-2019 05:02 AM

Oh hey, another good reason not to play Blizzard games.

Inkabodcrane 10-09-2019 06:10 AM

This is a super complicated topic. But it's gross. I have been really looking forward to the new Call of Duty, for the first time in many years. Some friends I have are now boycotting Activision/Blizzard, and I can't blame them. I haven't decided what I'll do in that regard, but if I do buy more of their products I will feel some shame, as things currently stand. That is a new situation to consider for me. We'll see where it leads. But overall this feels gross and shameful for Blizzard.

Chief Smash 10-09-2019 06:49 AM

It goes to show that all of the virtue signaling that these companies do only happens when there's no real cost. The second there's a real and substantial cost to whatever banner they're flying today, that banner comes down and comes down quick.

brandonjclark 10-09-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rommel (Post 2545789)
I'll just be here, in Cheung Sha Wan, being very, very quiet but staring intently. And which side of the issue I fall on is up to you.

I've already given it some thought and I picture your face covered in a mask, sitting near an open window at night looking at the protests far down below in the street. Tears are drying on your face and your energy is spent for the day, comfortable in your efforts to combat the eventual takeover, saying to yourself, "I did something".

I wonder if it's just a fantastical dream or if you really don't care.

*you've been awfully silent

AlfredT 10-09-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ministryofwrath (Post 2545790)
Kong kong.


I love near hong kong.

And they should be ashamed of themselves for being racist bastards.


They continue to say they aren't "chinese" yet they are by DNA and blood.

They continue to ask for help from other places, yet, when they come to the west, they are the first to cry racism and change the local culture to their own rather than embracing the new culture.

No, I don't think it's ok to send people from my country who are called "racist" and "scum" and "selfish" to go fight and die for a country full of people that will cry the same thing in a few generations of setting foot on our soil.


I think it's time for my own people to fight and die in a civil war and win back their country.

And that's how I feel about that.


No, I'm not Chinese.

Besides the point, if we're going to start getting morality and honor again, Korea should be on the radar for "saving" not hong kong.

What in the holy fuck are you saying? Honestly, I am not criticizing you, I simply don't understand what you are saying.

Sensei-X 10-09-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkabodcrane (Post 2545796)
This is a super complicated topic. But it's gross. I have been really looking forward to the new Call of Duty, for the first time in many years. Some friends I have are now boycotting Activision/Blizzard, and I can't blame them. I haven't decided what I'll do in that regard, but if I do buy more of their products I will feel some shame, as things currently stand. That is a new situation to consider for me. We'll see where it leads. But overall this feels gross and shameful for Blizzard.

A few people I know mentioned the whole boycotting thing, and then they were silent when I pointed out that the reason this happened was because of the 5% ownership of ActiBlizz by Tencent Holdings LLC (they were also responsible for banning the NBA broadcasts in China) and that they in fact own 5% of Ubisoft, 29% of Funcom, 100% of Riot Games, 40% of Epic Games and by extension the Epic Game Store so if they were trying to make a credible statement deleting Hearthstone was not enough. I haven't heard anything since, guess giving up League of Legends, and the EGS lower prices and free games are where they draw the line. :rolleyes:

Mad Max RW 10-09-2019 09:18 AM

I think it’s hilarious. Part of me wants to say grow up and get a real job.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-09-2019 12:07 PM

Chinese government can chock on a bag of dicks the organ harvesting protestor shooting human shit piles and I have give money to support the movement to keep HK free from human garbage that is CCP Chinese government

ministryofwrath 10-09-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfredT (Post 2545807)
What in the holy fuck are you saying? Honestly, I am not criticizing you, I simply don't understand what you are saying.

I've been living abroad more or less for 6 years.


in that time, I've seen a culture that prioritizes its own people and culture, and its worked out well for them.


Now it's time for Hong Kong to accept its identity as part of china, and stop living on borrowed power from other countries, they are chinese, and hong kong is part of china.


So many people from china, and hong kong, come to America and start to replace the local people, the signs the restaurants the culture.

yet here they are screaming "we aren't chinese save us, give us western freedom and culture"

And I'm sick of the twisted double standards.


So I'm saying let hong kong return to their rightful owners and people.

they need to stop begging westerners to sacrifices western lives to save them.

Because in the end, they'd replace us while calling us racist and taking advantage of our local laws to benefit their people while sacrifices ours.


I'm saying ones own people should come first before you save the rest of the world, and virtue signaling won't save your soul or your people.


Living abroad makes you more immune to koolaid than the average person, for better or worse.


And no insult taken, even if you are criticizing, it's the internet, I've got chainmail for skin

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-09-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ministryofwrath (Post 2545827)
I've been living abroad more or less for 6 years.


in that time, I've seen a culture that prioritizes its own people and culture, and its worked out well for them.


Now it's time for Hong Kong to accept its identity as part of china, and stop living on borrowed power from other countries, they are chinese, and hong kong is part of china.


So many people from china, and hong kong, come to America and start to replace the local people, the signs the restaurants the culture.

yet here they are screaming "we aren't chinese save us, give us western freedom and culture"

And I'm sick of the twisted double standards.


So I'm saying let hong kong return to their rightful owners and people.

they need to stop begging westerners to sacrifices western lives to save them.

Because in the end, they'd replace us while calling us racist and taking advantage of our local laws to benefit their people while sacrifices ours.


I'm saying ones own people should come first before you save the rest of the world, and virtue signaling won't save your soul or your people.


Living abroad makes you more immune to koolaid than the average person, for better or worse.


And no insult taken, even if you are criticizing, it's the internet, I've got chainmail for skin

Get bent dude! It's not about that it about not wanting to be under the thumb of god awful CCP government. The guys that lock up religious minority's like falun gong or Weger Muslim's in "reeducation" AKA concentration camps. They even harvest organs from this people for fuck sakes. I have give money to help them fight these human shit piles in the Chinese government you can go right to hell dude.
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...i3.4h2zQHRYjwY

Terran 10-09-2019 02:33 PM

They were dicks before this.

https://i.imgur.com/tnVnGjn.jpg?1

Terran 10-09-2019 02:33 PM

But at least now we know even more clearly what their values are:

https://i.imgur.com/krQ6uUK.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/PFaCyv9.jpg

Terran 10-09-2019 02:37 PM

Time to take names on which game companies are majority owned by China. Also, which companies are kowtowing to China's communist censors, ownership stake or not.

Divest yourself of this civilization-ending bullshit. You can spare a game or an entertainment product. You CANNOT spare your freedoms...I hope. Western companies must be forced to suffer if they choose filthy communist censors over our bedrock ideals.

On this issue, Trump is motherfucking right, and he has broad bipartisan support to prove it. It's time to decouple and defang the communist snake we've fed for decades.

MADxMrMike 10-09-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Terran (Post 2545833)
Time to take names on which game companies are majority owned by China. Also, which companies are kowtowing to China's communist censors, ownership stake or not.

Divest yourself of this civilization-ending bullshit. You can spare a game or an entertainment product. You CANNOT spare your freedoms...I hope. Western companies must be forced to suffer if they choose filthy communist censors over our bedrock ideals.

On this issue, Trump is motherfucking right, and he has broad bipartisan support to prove it. It's time to decouple and defang the communist snake we've fed for decades.

dude... im telling you.. im not a Trump fan by any means and I stand mostly in the middle when it comes to our countries political issues. I think he is a schmuck really and tends to tip his hand way to many times due to his attitude and loud mouth... BUT he is dead on when it comes to China. Hell just my basic competitive nature makes every fucking bone in my body scream "STOP FEEDING THE BEAST!!" haha Like we are making our competitor stronger... FOR YEARS!! Now look at them!! How is this not ringing alarm bells in American ears??

Terran 10-09-2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terran (Post 2545833)
Time to take names on which game companies are majority owned by China. Also, which companies are kowtowing to China's communist censors, ownership stake or not.

A start: Business Hall of Bootlickers.

Edit: Better link to list of bootlickers here: Ignominious Hall of Infamy.

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Originally Posted by MADxMrMike (Post 2545836)
...

This is one we can almost all agree to fight together. The other stuff we can spar over, but this one is pretty unifying.

Except for asshat greedheads among our global corporatist elites and their bought-and-paid-for politicians on the left and right...and there are a LOT of those folks.

Exodus 10-09-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MADxMrMike (Post 2545836)
dude... im telling you.. im not a Trump fan by any means and I stand mostly in the middle when it comes to our countries political issues. I think he is a schmuck really and tends to tip his hand way to many times due to his attitude and loud mouth... BUT he is dead on when it comes to China. Hell just my basic competitive nature makes every fucking bone in my body scream "STOP FEEDING THE BEAST!!" haha Like we are making our competitor stronger... FOR YEARS!! Now look at them!! How is this not ringing alarm bells in American ears??

Imposing tariffs on chinese imports is not going to fix the problem.
Companies moving there along with oh I don't know trump's own daughter's business manufacturing her shit there also will simply relocate to the philipines or whatever corporate. Don't fucking kid yourself that guy's only nationality is who has money and how can he get it and making sure he doesn't burn any bridges when he gets out of office to make the real deals he's been setting up while in office.

Sensei-X 10-09-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MADxMrMike (Post 2545836)
dude... im telling you.. im not a Trump fan by any means and I stand mostly in the middle when it comes to our countries political issues. I think he is a schmuck really and tends to tip his hand way to many times due to his attitude and loud mouth... BUT he is dead on when it comes to China. Hell just my basic competitive nature makes every fucking bone in my body scream "STOP FEEDING THE BEAST!!" haha Like we are making our competitor stronger... FOR YEARS!! Now look at them!! How is this not ringing alarm bells in American ears??

That's an easy one, because politicians tell them not to worry about it, either directly or through their silence. Because 2020 is an election year, and cutting off China would get 1000's of them fired and that would be bad for their popularity and chances of re-election. At best you'll get a politician to say "something should be done about it" and then wait for it to blow over.

And at the end of the day people talk big about freedom of speech and human rights, but have it in any way, shape or form threaten their comfort and/or well-being and see how fast people's tune changes. Remember when factory workers in China were literally dying making iPhones? A few months later you could count all the fucks that were still being given on one hand.

Not to mention that a mere 24 hours later since this news broke this is all starting to be dismissed as "more SJW bullshit". Practically anything can be swept under the rug once the SJW card is played.

Terran 10-09-2019 05:04 PM

Good to see there are still bitter, jaded, apathetic people on the Internet! :rolleyes:

Forcing American companies out of China will fix the problem, and that only happens if they suffer for staying there and benefit for leaving.

And for those of you who suffer from such an extreme case of TDS that you think fucking with China somehow improves Trump's personal financial position vis a vis the Chinese, you're just a dumb POS, lol. :D

blackzc 10-09-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vallor (Post 2545774)
The rules were broken, he'll have to suck it up. I thank him for his sacrifice.
After all, down in section 6 of the 3 point font document they throw up it CLEARLY says:



Emphasis mine.

So better not leave your mic on while making cow farting noises. It could trigger some Eco-nut who has pull at Blizzard.

I hope someone picks him up but, lets face it, no one wants to go against our $ino-overlords. Too much money to lose!


Yup, you must be 100% beep boop while playing games in this area.

Best tactic? Follow the rules, make your money till your bored of said game. Go out with a bang, CM Punk pipebomb style.

And of course, know that these companies give not one iota about you, your family, your culture, your country, no matter what, act accordingly. This shit is entertainment, and of very little import at the end of the day.

vallor 10-09-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exodus (Post 2545842)
Imposing tariffs on chinese imports is not going to fix the problem.
Companies moving there along with oh I don't know trump's own daughter's business manufacturing her shit there also will simply relocate to the philipines or whatever corporate.

The Philippines isn't our biggest geo-political threat, nor do they hold almost $2 trillion of our national debt which, if they could divest themselves of would crash our economy.

China is and does.

If people moved production to other Asian countries (or, better yet, back to America) we'd be in a lot better position to manage the real threats China has introduced. Like 30%+ of the co2 emissions and basically building islands and then militarizing them in the South China Sea.

blackzc 10-09-2019 07:20 PM

Why dont eco terrorist complain about China when america is polluting at 1950s levels?

Why dont they promote CAP, instead of cap and trade. No needing in trading the right to pollute if we all have 12 months to live lol.

Its almost as if the eco movement has been hijacked and is being used for nefarious reasons and has been since the start of it.

vallor 10-09-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackzc (Post 2545853)
Its almost as if the eco movement has been hijacked and is being used for nefarious reasons and has been since the start of it.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=h...jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Real_Deal 10-09-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackzc (Post 2545853)
Why dont eco terrorist complain about China when america is polluting at 1950s levels?

Environmentalists in the US have greater affect on US policy than China's. But you know that.

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Originally Posted by blackzc (Post 2545853)
12 months to live

No climate scientist claims this. But you know that.

Grow up.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-09-2019 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Real_Deal (Post 2545867)
Environmentalists in the US have greater affect on US policy than China's. But you know that.



No climate scientist claims this. But you know that.

Grow up.

Yea but I don't think they have concentration camps were the harvest peoples organs pretty big difference. That video is fucked https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9116861.html

Meeks 10-09-2019 10:18 PM

Make no mistake. China is using its access to the US market to impose censorship and control outside of its borders. These are just the first steps, but if this authoritarian suppression of freedom is allowed to continue where will we be in 10 years? 50? I applaud anyone who stands up to this behavior, no matter the financial repercussions.

ministryofwrath 10-09-2019 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir_Smokes_Alot (Post 2545828)
Get bent dude! It's not about that it about not wanting to be under the thumb of god awful CCP government. The guys that lock up religious minority's like falun gong or Weger Muslim's in "reeducation" AKA concentration camps. They even harvest organs from this people for fuck sakes. I have give money to help them fight these human shit piles in the Chinese government you can go right to hell dude.
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...i3.4h2zQHRYjwY

I won't give my money or loved ones.


we don't need another war that is never won.


It's time people learn to fight for themselves, rather than point the finger at the usa in anger and grovel back when they need their big baseball bat called the military.



Freedom is earned, not given.



Westerners aren't even free anymore because they forgot that lesson.

so you get it straight, nothings bent here.



"id give money" how about you stop giving money and telling others to give their money and lives, and go join the military to fight for hong kong, then and only then perhaps you can preach about freedom.


And not once did I defend china and what it is.

I just won't pay or sacrifice my self or others to fight in a internal civil war in a foreign country.

Again I say, if the world wants to be honorable and show courage and free the enslaved, we should be looking at north korea, anything less is political masturbation at the cost of tax payers money and lives.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-09-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ministryofwrath (Post 2545871)
I won't give my money or loved ones.


we don't need another war that is never won.


It's time people learn to fight for themselves, rather than point the finger at the usa in anger and grovel back when they need their big baseball bat called the military.



Freedom is earned, not given.



Westerners aren't even free anymore because they forgot that lesson.

so you get it straight, nothings bent here.



"id give money" how about you stop giving money and telling others to give their money and lives, and go join the military to fight for hong kong, then and only then perhaps you can preach about freedom.


And not once did I defend china and what it is.

I just won't pay or sacrifice my self or others to fight in a internal civil war in a foreign country.

Again I say, if the world wants to be honorable and show courage and free the enslaved, we should be looking at north korea, anything less is political masturbation at the cost of tax payers money and lives.

So in the 1930s you would have bin saying leave Germany alone too OK got it that's that's the kind person you are . Glad we know were we stand

sticky 10-09-2019 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ministryofwrath (Post 2545827)
I've been living abroad more or less for 6 years.


in that time, I've seen a culture that prioritizes its own people and culture, and its worked out well for them.


Now it's time for Hong Kong to accept its identity as part of china, and stop living on borrowed power from other countries, they are chinese, and hong kong is part of china.


So many people from china, and hong kong, come to America and start to replace the local people, the signs the restaurants the culture.

yet here they are screaming "we aren't chinese save us, give us western freedom and culture"

And I'm sick of the twisted double standards.


So I'm saying let hong kong return to their rightful owners and people.

they need to stop begging westerners to sacrifices western lives to save them.

Because in the end, they'd replace us while calling us racist and taking advantage of our local laws to benefit their people while sacrifices ours.


I'm saying ones own people should come first before you save the rest of the world, and virtue signaling won't save your soul or your people.


Living abroad makes you more immune to koolaid than the average person, for better or worse.


And no insult taken, even if you are criticizing, it's the internet, I've got chainmail for skin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhvVog_3v4U

sticky 10-09-2019 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ministryofwrath (Post 2545871)

Freedom is earned, not given.

Says the guy who wants to give Hong Kong up completely to China and have them give up their fight.

Stop typing. Seek help.

Sir_Smokes_Alot 10-09-2019 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2545874)

I approve hehehehe


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