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vallor 01-08-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NightRain (Post 2551296)
My prediction is the Xbox is 15-25% faster and sells for the same price (maybe less) than the PS5. Microsoft wants to win this generation and they want the best hardware but not the most expensive.

Yeah, I think this is about right. The CUs will only improve graphics performance so any titles which tilt to being CPU bound over GPU (or, of course, the ideal of an even split of resources) will not benefit from those extra CUs.

Microsoft knows they screwed the pooch on the Xbox One hardware wise. They let their pet projects, especially Kinect, interfere and take up precious Cost of Goods $ which would have otherwise been spent on RAM and/or GPU. Not to mention reserving a full CPU core to Kinect regardless of if it was Konnected or not.

Companies were BEGGING Microsoft to improve their RAM and GPU loadout and when it became clear they weren't/didn't I know a few companies who swore off ever launching on Xbox One.

Some have kept that promise, others used Timed Exclusives to prevent them from at least launching on Xbox first... plus those extra months are necessary to create the lower spec performance profile required to run on the Xbox One hardware vs. the PS4.

As someone who worked in the division and saw the Xbox One fail train coming from a mile off after the Interactive Entertainment division poured so much blood, sweat, and tears into the success of the 360, I will be happy to see the XSX mark a return to good gaming principles.

RAV 01-08-2020 12:31 PM

Is all just speculation based on a rumor of course. But all modern titles so far are heavily bottlenecked by graphics. The only meaningful difference between the current pro and base versions of XboxOne and PS4, is the graphics also. If the rumors are true, the next gen difference would be massive, and it would only make sense that this would be the higher tier pro version, coming out with a lower tier base version that's cheaper. If the rumors are wrong, anything's possible as you say. Really curious what will happen.

ElektroDragon 01-08-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddmaker (Post 2551228)
Better hardware than the Xbox, an SSD you cant buy yet for your PC, 4k Bluray.. what's not to like.

Better hardware? How 9.2 TFlops PS5 vs 12 TFlops Series X better hardware?

ElektroDragon 01-08-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2551257)
If I read that right, they are really both roughly the same. That's cool.

You did NOT read it right. 56 Navi GPU units is way more than 36, and easily makes up for the small megahertz drop. Series X will be faster and run cooler as a result, thus quieter too. Plus the RAM speed. PS5 is toast.

Chimpbot 01-08-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostblaze (Post 2551254)
Yeah, not going to happen. PS4 backwards compatibility at most. They will keep milking the digal/retro games from people who want to play it on their most recent console from their online store. It's all about the Benjamins baby.

Backwards compatibility with PS4 games is confirmed, although there are rumors of something much more than that. It's very much a rumor, but not necessarily outside the realm of possibility.

PatrickRes9 01-08-2020 05:04 PM

Don't need or want, personally. Very happy with my PC at 1440p, 144Hz refresh rate, out of my RX5700 XT.

Ghostblaze 01-08-2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimpbot (Post 2551311)
Backwards compatibility with PS4 games is confirmed, although there are rumors of something much more than that. It's very much a rumor, but not necessarily outside the realm of possibility.

PS4 compatibility for sure. Everything else in that article is run of the mill rumor BS. I'll believe when I see it.

Evil Avatar 01-08-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2551309)
You did NOT read it right. 56 Navi GPU units is way more than 36, and easily makes up for the small megahertz drop. Series X will be faster and run cooler as a result, thus quieter too. Plus the RAM speed. PS5 is toast.

It's all about games. Microsoft still doesn't have them. :p

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SpectralThundr 01-09-2020 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2551322)
It's all about games. Microsoft still doesn't have them. :p

It has the same games minus some 1st party stuff but that goes both ways. Sony's exclusives are mostly overrated console tripe to begin with anyway.

Chief Smash 01-09-2020 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2551328)
It has the same games minus some 1st party stuff but that goes both ways. Sony's exclusives are mostly overrated console tripe to begin with anyway.

I have a PS4 and I don't think I have a single PS4 exclusive. I just haven't felt the need. I could easily have bought an Xbox this generation and not have noticed the difference. Evil is just doing his trolling thing. :p

Inkabodcrane 01-09-2020 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2551328)
It has the same games minus some 1st party stuff but that goes both ways. Sony's exclusives are mostly overrated console tripe to begin with anyway.

I definitely hear ya. Sony gets a ton of props for their exclusives, but I wonder who is projectile jizzing all over themselves over them? They are pretty hit or miss, for real, and I buy most if not all of them. Star Ocean didn't even give me a semi, and Gravity Rush 2 is just limp. But they have good ones too, like Infamous and stuff.

But the new generation is...new. MS bought all these new studios who are making stuff, and Sony can be expected to be the same with hits and misses. Literally neither one is moving the needle at this point. Backwards compat will be very nice, and the more powerful one could be relevant with the next gen TVs in a few years. Glad Sony is finally bringing up the rear and adding UHD bluray support, something Sony fans said didn't matter and was a waste of time when Xbox added it.

Anyways, lets see what happens, I love new console generations!

Juan 01-09-2020 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostblaze (Post 2551254)
Yeah, not going to happen. PS4 backwards compatibility at most. They will keep milking the digital/retro games from people who want to play it on their most recent console from their online store. It's all about the Benjamins baby.

Actually this could totally happen. Rumour is that they will announce full PS backwards compatibility at the big reveal next month.

Chief Smash 01-09-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2551335)
Actually this could totally happen. Rumour is that they will announce full PS backwards compatibility at the big reveal next month.

I'll believe it when I see it but that would be pretty interesting. I still have some PS1 and PS2 games I like to play. And being able to totally replace the PS4 is a bonus of course. Space is always limited.

Evil Avatar 01-09-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2551328)
It has the same games minus some 1st party stuff but that goes both ways. Sony's exclusives are mostly overrated console tripe to begin with anyway.

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shadow763 01-09-2020 07:16 AM

I will get both eventually, it is just a matter of time. I am guessing I will get PS5 first, but we shall see.

BeardedSonOfNel 01-09-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NightRain (Post 2551295)
Xbox One already has Haptic triggers. Forza, Gears 5, The Division, Tomb Raider and a few other games support it. It has been under utilized so far though.

Yep, you're right!

BeardedSonOfNel 01-09-2020 08:02 AM

I won't be buying a new console anytime soon. In the past I tried to own them all, but my backlog is so huge.... I guess I'd buy an updated Switch at some point. As of now my consoles are used more for Netflix, and Prime Video than anything else.

Evil Avatar 01-09-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BeardedSonOfNel (Post 2551345)
I won't be buying a new console anytime soon. In the past I tried to own them all, but my backlog is so huge.... I guess I'd buy an updated Switch at some point. As of now my consoles are used more for Netflix, and Prime Video than anything else.

I always get suckered into buying both to play the exclusives.

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While they weren't great, I just had to play the new Gears of War titles. I never finished Gears of War 5. It's pretty bad.

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At least I got a chance to finally play Halo Reach and Halo 5.

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My Son is really looking forward to that new Switch.

Evil Avatar 01-09-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Smash (Post 2551333)
I have a PS4 and I don't think I have a single PS4 exclusive. I just haven't felt the need. I could easily have bought an Xbox this generation and not have noticed the difference. Evil is just doing his trolling thing. :p

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SpectralThundr 01-09-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2551337)

OMG One decent exclusive PS WINS jesus your trolling efforts are terrible. :rolleyes:


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