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Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 12:51 PM

Microsoft Xbox E3 Briefing #E32018
 

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 01:35 PM

So far this is a bad show. The games aren't bad, it is just that they are all games you can also get on the PlayStation 4.

The only title I think Xbox owners would be excited about, Halo Infinite, they didn't say a single word about it. Is it just Halo Online or is it a new title? It seems like it is just a new version of Halo Online.

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:12 PM

DMC5 looks pretty good.

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:13 PM

Session was a weak trailer, no gameplay whatsoever.

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:14 PM

More cuphead to punish our controllers, great!

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:21 PM

DYIng LIGHT 2.... HELL YES.

LostToys 06-10-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514470)
So far this is a bad show. The games aren't bad, it is just that they are all games you can also get on the PlayStation 4.

The only title I think Xbox owners would be excited about, Halo Infinite, they didn't say a single word about it. Is it just Halo Online or is it a new title? It seems like it is just a new version of Halo Online.

Seeing how they said that there would be substantially more Master Chief this time around, it sounds like the next main-line Halo title. So single player with a multi-player component.

Though, with the popularity of Battle Royal style games, I would actually be down for them going back and revisiting the original Halo design where you played on one large open world map. God I still pine for the original Halo for Mac.

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:39 PM

Just Cause 4 looks great.


And now they're showing Gears of War 5!

brandonjclark 06-10-2018 02:43 PM

OK, Gears 5 is looking next gen.

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 02:43 PM

So, they literally only showed like 1 exclusive that anyone cares about, Gears of War 5, and after Gears of War 4, we kinda know that one will not be that great.

Well, I'll give Sony some points here, Microsoft spent 2 hours showing off games you can also buy on the PS4.

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonjclark (Post 2514480)
OK, Gears 5 is looking next gen.

I don't know if you played Gears of War 4, but it wasn't very good. And this title is from the same studio only now that studio is developing Gears of War 5, Gears of War Pop, Gears of War Tactics and a new title.

So, if all they had to create before was one title and it wasn't very good, how good of a job do you think they will do splitting their resources across four titles???

They need someone other than Big Gay Al running that place.

BadIronTree 06-10-2018 02:48 PM

OMG OMG OMG


subroc 06-10-2018 03:40 PM

Pretty average. Not good, not bad, just the usual stuff. Only thing to get me really excited was Cyberpunk 2077. Very happy to get a new Forza Horizon - everything else I could take or leave.

ElektroDragon 06-10-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514481)
So, they literally only showed like 1 exclusive that anyone cares about, Gears of War 5, and after Gears of War 4, we kinda know that one will not be that great.

Well, I'll give Sony some points here, Microsoft spent 2 hours showing off games you can also buy on the PS4.

I am now convinced you're a paid shill for Sony. How do you take 15 good console exclusives, 18 launch exclusives, and 5 new studio acquisitions and still come out with your typical Xbox haz no gaemz hur hur hur? Are you a blind man or just play one on the internet?

karaliusbronius 06-10-2018 04:09 PM

I want cyberpunk!!!!!!!!!!

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2514487)
I am now convinced you're a paid shill for Sony. How do you take 15 good console exclusives, 18 launch exclusives, and 5 new studio acquisitions and still come out with your typical Xbox haz no gaemz hur hur hur? Are you a blind man or just play one on the internet?

I saw perhaps six games that were exclusive to the Xbox and about 44 games you can play on the PlayStation. Exactly how is that a big win for Microsoft?

And out of those six games, there are only 3 people actually care about and one of those three they didn't even tell you what kind of a game it was. (ie, Halo Infinite)

For all we know it's a strategy game or a mobile game like Gears.

ElektroDragon 06-10-2018 04:41 PM

Ok my man, but I'm not sure how Sony can top that conference. All their big stuff came out this year already.

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2514490)
Ok my man, but I'm not sure how Sony can top that conference. All their big stuff came out this year already.

Sony isn't doing a traditional conference this year. They are just showing off four games, they aren't going to bother with the multiplatform stuff. Which makes sense, Microsoft just showed it all off for them. LOL.

ElektroDragon 06-10-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514491)
Sony isn't doing a traditional conference this year. They are just showing off four games, they aren't going to bother with the multiplatform stuff. Which makes sense, Microsoft just showed it all off for them. LOL.

Actually it's because all the multiplatform titles are better on Xbox One X. Zing! :)

Mad Max RW 06-10-2018 05:05 PM

Fallout 76 looks exactly like Fallout 4 with the Regrowth Overhaul mod. Waiting for the Bethesda conference later to see if there is more to the game.

Division 2 was painfully bad. The most boring cover shooter ever. And it doesn't look all that good graphically. God I hate third person cover shooters.

Dying Light 2 looks very cool. Best part of the whole conference. The last games of theirs I played was the underrated Dead Island and the terrific Call of Juarez Gunslinger. Techland is back on my radar.

Just Cause 4 looks great. Big, beautiful, over the top chaos. Loved it.

Cyberpunk 2077 trailer was dull. Show me the gameplay. It's been how many years and they come back with a hodgepodge of cutscenes. What a letdown.

Sensei-X 06-10-2018 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Max RW (Post 2514494)
Cyberpunk 2077 trailer was dull. Show me the gameplay. It's been how many years and they come back with a hodgepodge of cutscenes. What a letdown.

Hopefully the gameplay is a hell of a lot more interesting because after all this waiting I expected more than Grand Theft Ready Player One. :(

Mad Max RW 06-10-2018 05:33 PM

I would totally be down for a scifi GTA. I've been practically begging for such a game since GTA2. Just fucking SHOW IT.

LostToys 06-10-2018 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Max RW (Post 2514494)
Cyberpunk 2077 trailer was dull. Show me the gameplay. It's been how many years and they come back with a hodgepodge of cutscenes. What a letdown.

For me I really do not need to see anything other than a release date. Projekt Red has earned their right to be a "buy always" developer. So seeing anything Cyperpunk related is just icing on the cake. Gameplay would be nice, but this is likely a 2020 title, so there is nothing really to be gained by seeing how it plays.

Mad Max RW 06-10-2018 06:18 PM

I'm a little wary of CD Projekt after a whole slew of former devs recently talked about a shitty working environment and directionless leadership. Really hoping The Witcher series hasn't been a fluke because Witcher 3 is the best game of the decade. How the hell do you follow that?

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2514492)
Actually it's because all the multiplatform titles are better on Xbox One X. Zing! :)

Since the system has sold so few units, there isn't any way to tell. Zing!

Primus 06-10-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ElektroDragon (Post 2514487)
I am now convinced you're a paid shill for Sony. How do you take 15 good console exclusives, 18 launch exclusives, and 5 new studio acquisitions and still come out with your typical Xbox haz no gaemz hur hur hur? Are you a blind man or just play one on the internet?

Yeah, he's glazing over Gears of War, Halo, Crackdown, Horizon, which are literally the reasons we bought this console, and even shit like Vermintide 2 being a gamepass launch game (this is promising for the future of the service). Like you said, every multiplat is going to be better on the XB1X. I own both but why would I play RDR2 or Cyberpunk on my PS4?

I'm pretty happy right now.

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Primus (Post 2514503)
Yeah, he's glazing over Gears of War, Halo, Crackdown, Horizon, which are literally the reasons we bought this console, and even shit like Vermintide 2 being a gamepass launch game (this is promising for the future of the service). Like you said, every multiplat is going to be better on the XB1X. I own both but why would I play RDR2 or Cyberpunk on my PS4?

I'm pretty happy right now.

Well, Crackdown looked like Ass and we know that the last Gears game wasn't very good and neither was the last Forza. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
So that leaves a Halo game that they didn't even talk about.

Ok.

Plus, I suspect after the big hoopla over Halo Online that Halo Infinite is just them re-launching Halo Online on the console and on PC.

Primus 06-10-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514505)
Well, Crackdown looked like Ass and we know that the last Gears game wasn't very good and neither was the last Forza. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
So that leaves a Halo game that they didn't even talk about.

Ok.

Plus, I suspect after the big hoopla over Halo Online that Halo Infinite is just them re-launching Halo Online on the console and on PC.

Crackdown and Gears looked like more Crackdown and Gears. YMMV, but if you liked those games you are going to like these ones. FH3 is sitting on a 91 on Metacritic, it's one of the few truly great exclusives this gen. It was excellent and 4 looks like more of the same caliber. You are just Ponying, hard.

Capt_Thad 06-10-2018 08:27 PM

Haven't played a Gears title before, but I might jump in now that they're on PC. Forza Horizon 3 was amazing, so I expect more of the same from Forza Horizon 4. Only downside for me is that it's releasing so close to the Crew 2.

Sea of Thieves is getting a lot of hate, but I really enjoy the game. The dev team has been pretty open/awesome with the community, so the announcements/teasers were expected, but I'm always looking forward to SoT trailers.

Little annoyed we didn't see Fable.

If had an Xbox, I'd prolly be on top of that gamepass. They're starting to build a halfway decent library for the Windows 10 store though, which is nice.

EL CABONG 06-10-2018 08:54 PM

What was the advanced wars fantasy knock off games name? Thought that looked cool.

Chimpbot 06-10-2018 09:24 PM

Gentlemen, there's a new Battletoads game coming next year. We should all feel blessed.

Evil Avatar 06-10-2018 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Primus (Post 2514509)
Crackdown and Gears looked like more Crackdown and Gears. YMMV, but if you liked those games you are going to like these ones. FH3 is sitting on a 91 on Metacritic, it's one of the few truly great exclusives this gen. It was excellent and 4 looks like more of the same caliber. You are just Ponying, hard.

Actually, I think the art on the first Crackdown was better than this one. All that power and it just looked like nothing. But, Crackdown was kind of a one-off anyway. There was a Crackdown 2, remember, and it flopped too.

It wasn't so much that Microsoft didn't show off good games, they showed off a TON of great games, it was just that they had almost nothing of their own to show off. The games they showed that people really want to play like Dying Light 2 were all multiplatform titles.

They had almost nothing to show of their own. What they should have been showing off, the Halo title, they literally didn't say a single word about beyond the title.

I thought Gears of War 5 looked fantastic, it is just that after Gears of War 4 I don't expect much from that studio. (And I expect even less knowing that they have 4 titles in development all at once.) I also think that switching the main character to some no-name secondary female character seemed kinda trendy and forced.

The least they could have done is do an Anya game if they were going to go that route. Personally, I would have gone with Carmine.

Juan 06-11-2018 02:10 AM

So still nothing exclusive from Microsoft apart from Gears and Halo. What the hell have they been doing for 5 years? I have never seen a company manage a product this bad, the once great xbox brand is now dog shit.

JazGalaxy 06-11-2018 02:30 AM

I think Xbox killed it, really. They continue to have more interesting first party titles than anything Sony is doing, in my opinion. I guess it's a new Sega vs. Nintendo type situation. They both have a lineup that caters to a certain audience and Sony's first party games do not cater to me at all.

I wish they had shown Battletoads, though. I have no idea what they were thinking with that non-trailer. What's the point in showing it if there's nothing worth showing? And the reveal is you ONE chance to get all the "hype" focused on one moment in time. They blew it with a weird joke about the turbo tunnels that confused everyone on the streams I watched.

Juan 06-11-2018 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2514538)
I think Xbox killed it, really. They continue to have more interesting first party titles than anything Sony is doing, in my opinion.

I'm curious, which of their small handful of exclusive titles do you find interesting? Halo, Gears and Forza are very generic fps, 3rd person & racing games. Not bad games just tired and generic.

The only interesting exclusive Microsoft has at this point imo is cuphead but even that i haven't gotten around to buying yet.

Obviously everyone has a different opinion but i find it almost unfathomable that you could claim Microsoft has a superior 1st party line to Sony. They just don't, not even close.

Angelus073 06-11-2018 03:51 AM

I think they are moving in the right direction but only because of the studio acquisitions. I am so tired of Gears and Halo. 343 can't get Halo right and Gears is not as good without Epic. They are just milking these tired IP's.

Forza is cool, there are now 10 of them so this is just a reskin with a new map and seasons.

I think they have a plan now but this will be Xbox for the next 3-5 years. This generation has gone for them. Xbox One is shite, the One is very nice but they are winning no fans back. I have both and my PS4 will carry on being the one thats used the most.

Not sure how anyone can think the Xbox exclusives are more interesting, Last of Us, Uncharted, Spiderman, God of War, Horizon, Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, Yakusza, Persona 5, Ni No Kuni, Bloodbourne, Last Guardian, Ico and on and on.

Not even close this generation.

Angelus073 06-11-2018 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2514542)
I'm curious, which of their small handful of exclusive titles do you find interesting? Halo, Gears and Forza are very generic fps, 3rd person & racing games. Not bad games just tired and generic.

The only interesting exclusive Microsoft has at this point imo is cuphead but even that i haven't gotten around to buying yet.

Obviously everyone has a different opinion but i find it almost unfathomable that you could claim Microsoft has a superior 1st party line to Sony. They just don't, not even close.

To add to this, you don't even need an Xbox for these, you can play them all on PC. There is a difference between exclusive and console exclusive.

Evil Avatar 06-11-2018 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelus073 (Post 2514544)
To add to this, you don't even need an Xbox for these, you can play them all on PC. There is a difference between exclusive and console exclusive.

That is the only reason I know the last Gears of War was really average, it was on the PC so i did play it. Same with Sea of Thieves (or the game demo for Sea of Thieves... if you have played it you know what I mean... HaHa) and State of Decay.

I know that this generation of Xbox is really average because I’ve been playing this generation of Xbox on my PC. That is half the reason I’m not impressed by the announcement of a new Gears... I know the last one was shit so why would I think the next one will be good?

Having their exclusives be available on the PC is a huge mistake. Those people who do want to play them can just buy a PS4 and the one or two Xbox exclusives they can get on the PC. If they are going to go that route, they should be putting their games up on Steam so at least they have a larger audience and would make more money.

Evil Avatar 06-11-2018 06:06 AM

Let’s talk about what I did like.

TONS of games. Just a mountain of content. If you own a PS4, you would be in heaven after the Microsoft show because they just laid out your purchases for the next 12+ months.

A new title from From Software? Just killer. I buy all those games. I’ll be getting that Dark Souls remaster as soon as the price drops a little.

I’m also still excited to see Beneath. It’s like 2 years late, but the studio is amazing and they make great experiences so it will be a winner. Plus it is on the PC too... heh. And from the wording of the more recent press releases, it seems like it will come to the PS4 at some point after a period of exclusivity. Probably six months down the road. That would be good, get the patched version. Very exciting and they barely showed it.

The Division 2? I’m there. Emabulator and I played through like 80% of the first game in Co-op and we even did the Dark Zone for a couple of pretty humiliating nights, so I’m up for more. I hope there is less focus on the Dark Zone, but I’m not holding my breath. I think the developers really like PvP.

And on top of those are titles like Dying Light 2, Cyberpunk, Kingdom Hearts 3, Just Cause 4 and Metro Exodus.

What I took away from the Microsoft Press Conference is that there is no better time to be a PlayStation gamer. If you look at all the multi platform titles Microsoft showed off and you add in all the Sony exclusives like Death Stranding, The Last of Us 2, Spider-Man and Days Gone plus exciting stuff like Red Dead Redemption 2, there is going to be more content for your PlayStation 4 over the next year than most people can even buy.

BadIronTree 06-11-2018 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Max RW (Post 2514494)

Cyberpunk 2077 trailer was dull. Show me the gameplay. It's been how many years and they come back with a hodgepodge of cutscenes. What a letdown.


Well They started before Star Citizen... give them time xD


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