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Evil Avatar 06-12-2018 07:15 AM

Pure Evil - E3 Thoughts
 
While there is still one more Press Conference later this morning (Nintendo), E3 is pretty much over for me. The game of the show was BioWare’s Anthem for sure with a close second place for Ubisoft’s Skull & Bones.

I wasn’t that impressed with the footage of Anthem last year, it just felt kinda generic and that it was really trying too hard to be Destiny. The problem is that Destiny 2 never added up to much. The single player campaigns just re-hashed enemies and locations we have already seen and the gear was mostly ugly. Who wants to grind for ugly gear? Anthem looks like it will fix all the problems Destiny has with a better campaign and cool looking armor sets to customize and collect (Not to mention monetize, right EA?)

Skull & Bones will certainly scratch the itch left over from Assassin’s Creed Black Flag. I’m going to miss a traditional single player campaign, but it really is taking the best part of Black Flag and turning it into a whole game. You can’t go wrong with that. Plus, like Anthem you know there will be tons of items and ships to grind for and collect.

The big thing I took away from this year was that there are a TON of AAA games coming out in 2019. We still have several top titles that will be released at the end of this year (Red Dead Redemption 2, Spider-Man, Battlefield V, Black Ops IIII, etc.) and the great games will just keep coming in January, February and March of next year.

After a couple of years where it felt like there wasn’t a lot of fantastic announcements, this year it seemed like every publisher had good games to announce, most of which aren’t titles that are going to get pushed off 2 or 3 years. What we are seeing this year, we will be playing before this time next year.

No matter what your platform, there is going to be TON to play. Good times.

P.S.: Runner up titles would include Dying Light 2, and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey. Both those just stand out as titles you have to own.

Mad Max RW 06-12-2018 07:51 AM

Rage 2 and Dying Light 2 are the only games to leave a positive impression in my mind and things I might buy. The entirety of EA's conference was a disaster. Things that left me feeling disinterested are Anthem, Division 2, and 90% of Bethesda's conference. Don't care about Sony and Death Stranding looks like a bunch of delivery missions in empty wastelands packed with dull monologues and invisible handstand monsters. I'm still interested in Cyberpunk 2077. Fallout 76 is cynical garbage.

Evil Avatar 06-12-2018 08:04 AM

I did think a lot of the conferences themselves went poorly. EA’s was just a little dull, Betheseda’s was way forced. They kept doing the “pause for applause” thing over and over and no one was clapping and what is with pushing Quake Champions, Prey and that card game no one plays? It was awkward as all hell.

Microsoft had the traditional press conference, but having some annnouncer go “Exclusive” over and over in front of titles that you know are multi platform titles was painful to watch and seemed kinda desperate. It’s not exclusive if you are just the first people to show it. That was their “exclusivity” for most of those titles, it was the exclusive console premiere, not a title with something exclusive to the Xbox. That’s just marketing doublespeak.

They only showed off like four actual exclusives: Halo, Ori 2, Forza 4 and Gears of War 5 and you could argue that those aren’t even exclusive any more since Microsoft puts everything out on the PC too. I also thing that not showing anything from Halo or even talking about it was a mistake. The Press Release at least says that it is a new Halo title in development, from the video they showed I just assumed it was some kind of a legitimate version of Halo Online. I’m sure other people were probably confused too.

Sony’s Press Conference was nicer, they mostly just showed the games without the awkward pausing for applause or the dumb introductions of developers who we just don’t give a shit about, but as a result it was really subdued and felt like they didn’t show as much.

I think Ubisoft did the best overall, they are still doing the “big show” and doing introductions, but they had a lot to show off this year and thank god they dumped that Girl Wood model. She was terrible. I enjoyed the whole Just Dance 2019 intro. That was fun with the dancing panda and the crazy costumes. Sure, it is a title I will never play, but they made a nice intro out of it.

Square was smart. They didn’t have much to show, so they just streamed the trailers and left it alone. The new Tomb Raider looks great, but I still haven’t played the last one and my backlog is so big now that I’m not sure I’ll ever get to it. I think if you like those games, it will be another good one. Who doesn’t like killing dudes with a bow? Always fun.

Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be amazing for sure. Wasn’t it recently delayed again?

I agree about Fallout 76. I just don’t know that it is something I wanted or needed. I think there is a fan base out there that wants it though. My Son is playing Fallout 4 today and his buddy is playing Fallout 4, but they can’t play it together. So, it fills a niche there for sure. Perhaps not for me though, it seems like something way too open to griefers. Perhaps if they have some PvE servers I could totally get into it. That is how I mostly played WoW, I stuck to the PvE servers for my primary character.

I didn’t mention Rage 2, it looks amazing, but the promo was painful to watch. Not sure who that musician was that did the intro, but he’s bad. It is like they have this great game, but have no idea how to market it. They just need to let it speak for itself like the last DOOM did. It’s going to be a great game, people will find it and buy it.

Evil Avatar 06-12-2018 08:07 AM

Oh and I have to add... WTF is with DOOM Eternal? Why not just DOOM II. DOOM II is one of the most famous games of all time, if they were doing a DOOM remake and they called it just DOOM why not have the sequel just be DOOM II? Seems like some bad marketing there.

Mozain 06-12-2018 08:09 AM

Left out the best part! All that For Honor goodness coming!

ashikenshin 06-12-2018 08:18 AM

I think people with a Playstation and PC were the biggest winners of this e3. Tons of different types of games to play. Skull and bones looks good, tons of customization. Hopefully the single player campaign is good. Rage 2 looks like a ton of fun, I may be one of the few people who enjoyed Rage, it was fun but it ended abruptly. Doom eternal, if it's anything like Doom then it will be amazing. Nothing needs to be said about Cyberpunk. The samurai dark souls, nioh 2, and ghosts are must buys for me. Spider man's combat looked great, can't wait to play that either.

Biggest disappointment for me was Fallout 76 being mp only.

and the biggest surprise was the explosm battle royale game: rapture rejects.

EL CABONG 06-12-2018 08:19 AM

I am more excited about games after this E3 than I have been in 4 or 5 years. Not as many BR games and HD remakes as I feared. Not many must buys for me. Lots and lots of maybe when its cheap. Which is still pretty good compared to some recent e3s.

I recently sold my PS4 . I don't get to play that cool ghost samurai game. Not really worried about missing anything else Sony showed. I am a pc only for now. That means I can play Xbox games as well. Maybe Nintendo can win me over with some cool games.

Evil Avatar 06-12-2018 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mozain (Post 2514716)
Left out the best part! All that For Honor goodness coming!

I just installed the patch last night to go back and finish up the single player campaign. Every time I go to finish the campaign, I just end up playing multiplayer all night. Ha!

Looks like the expansion pack has a co-op mode and something called “Endless PvE” in addition to the four new heroes and the new castle breach mode. I hope the price is decent. I would be happy putting in another $20, but I don’t think I would want to go much higher than that.

Mad Max RW 06-12-2018 08:24 AM

Andrew WK opened for Bethesda/Rage 2. I think he's alright. For some reason my fiance loves him and met him before. His style is 20 years too late for me.

The PC conference was silly in how many bad and random games there were. Although that first person Factorio thing is neat.

EL CABONG 06-12-2018 08:37 AM

Also something about last of us 2 really bugged me. First I liked the the first one. Didn't really want a squel with the same characters. That story ended.

But what is really dumb is you have 1 girl on the whole planet immune to the zombie spores. who is of breeding age,but she is a lesbian. Isn't there a lack of people after the outbreak. Isn't there a decent chance her offspring would also be inmune to the spores? Shouldn't she be trying to poop out as many inmune babies as possible? Then they have kids and the kids have kids and so on. Isn't that how you fix that universe? I guess SJW dogma is more important than the long term survival of the human race.

Mozain 06-12-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514721)
I just installed the patch last night to go back and finish up the single player campaign. Every time I go to finish the campaign, I just end up playing multiplayer all night. Ha!

Looks like the expansion pack has a co-op mode and something called “Endless PvE” in addition to the four new heroes and the new castle breach mode. I hope the price is decent. I would be happy putting in another $20, but I don’t think I would want to go much higher than that.

I got three friends into it now that the starter edition costs $0 this week.

One thing I don't think they mentioned much of is the graphics re-work, and that they are changing all the characters around so they will no longer be generic warriors. Each one is getting a name, style, new dialogue (for allies and opponents), stuff like that. Said it would allow them to tailor the characters much more, maybe give them more unique weapons, armor, etc...

ElektroDragon 06-12-2018 10:25 AM

Doom Eternal because Halo Infinite.
And Xbox clearly said World Premier when appropriate. Regular exclusive when appropriate, and Launch (timed) exclusive when appropriate. I did not see any problem at all.
They took all your advice setting up new studios, adding studios, investing in new IP, and focusing on nothing but tons of games, and all you say to that is they are desperate. Come on, man.

karaliusbronius 06-12-2018 10:56 AM

I was really looking forward to something Borderlands 3 related. Sad Face. I just hope that the next Division isn't filled with bullet sponges. I will have to say how beautiful games are getting, its pretty insane.

SpectralThundr 06-12-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EL CABONG (Post 2514726)
Also something about last of us 2 really bugged me. First I liked the the first one. Didn't really want a squel with the same characters. That story ended.

But what is really dumb is you have 1 girl on the whole planet immune to the zombie spores. who is of breeding age,but she is a lesbian. Isn't there a lack of people after the outbreak. Isn't there a decent chance her offspring would also be inmune to the spores? Shouldn't she be trying to poop out as many inmune babies as possible? Then they have kids and the kids have kids and so on. Isn't that how you fix that universe? I guess SJW dogma is more important than the long term survival of the human race.

And you just summed up why TLOU was a terrible game, here they have a chane to save the world and what do they do? Decide one girls life is more important. Stupid narrative was fucking stupid.

wunshot 06-12-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EL CABONG (Post 2514726)
Also something about last of us 2 really bugged me. First I liked the the first one. Didn't really want a squel with the same characters. That story ended.

But what is really dumb is you have 1 girl on the whole planet immune to the zombie spores. who is of breeding age,but she is a lesbian. Isn't there a lack of people after the outbreak. Isn't there a decent chance her offspring would also be inmune to the spores? Shouldn't she be trying to poop out as many inmune babies as possible? Then they have kids and the kids have kids and so on. Isn't that how you fix that universe? I guess SJW dogma is more important than the long term survival of the human race.

A better case for rape has never been made before... :p

In the words of Chris Rock, "I'm not saying it's right, but I understand".

Evil Avatar 06-12-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EL CABONG (Post 2514726)
Also something about last of us 2 really bugged me. First I liked the the first one. Didn't really want a squel with the same characters. That story ended.

But what is really dumb is you have 1 girl on the whole planet immune to the zombie spores. who is of breeding age,but she is a lesbian. Isn't there a lack of people after the outbreak. Isn't there a decent chance her offspring would also be inmune to the spores? Shouldn't she be trying to poop out as many inmune babies as possible? Then they have kids and the kids have kids and so on. Isn't that how you fix that universe? I guess SJW dogma is more important than the long term survival of the human race.

You do understand that they can both be lesbians and still have kids, right? They only have to get with some random dude at the settlement a few times and they can push out a little brat.

ElektroDragon 06-12-2018 12:33 PM

Publisher win was Bethesda with honorable mention to Ubisoft, and big 3 win was Microsoft. IMHO. Bethesda and Microsoft show the most promise, momentum, and most unique game ideas in production. Sony was just gore, politics, and VR. :P Nintendo was like 90% Smash and maybe I'll buy Mario Party.

Sensei-X 06-12-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2514746)
And you just summed up why TLOU was a terrible game, here they have a chane to save the world and what do they do? Decide one girls life is more important. Stupid narrative was fucking stupid.

Well you do realize that if she's immune to the zombie spores that it would be because of some hyper-immune system which means she more than likely couldn't get pregnant.

Chimpbot 06-12-2018 12:50 PM

Overall, I think this year's E3 was decent. There's plenty of stuff in the pipeline that I'm excited for to varying degrees, which is ultimately all I can ask.

I wasn't necessarily blown away by anything, but there is more than a handful of titles I'm looking forward to.

Chief Smash 06-12-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei-X (Post 2514757)
Well you do realize that if she's immune to the zombie spores that it would be because of some hyper-immune system which means she more than likely couldn't get pregnant.

Or, you know, she wouldn't be as cool and sympathetic and edgy if she was just one of those boring hetero people. Besides, we all know from Walking Dead that being gay makes you much more likely to survive the various zombie type outbreaks.

EL CABONG 06-12-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Avatar (Post 2514755)
You do understand that they can both be lesbians and still have kids, right? They only have to get with some random dude at the settlement a few times and they can push out a little brat.

I do . Not saying she can't be gay While preggers. Why is she not pooping out kids is more the problem. Or at least using her blood to do tests to find a vaccine. Maybe a blood transfusion can make someone of the same blood type immune. Not risking the one inmune chick on missions to go kill people. Plot holes is what I am saying.

LordSoth 06-12-2018 05:09 PM

I am hoping we see some Age of Empires 4 footage from MS and hopefully they do show something later this week...I wanna see how relic is taking the series over. But overall, hopefully there are some games that are there, that they just didn't show yet at E3 under the big boys.

Otherwise it will fall under pathetic show case yet again...E3 isn't what it use to be anymore. Seems to many people do there own thing etc.

Wizzkidd 06-12-2018 08:20 PM

Nearly every outlet and fan on twitter is stating the obvious: that Xbox won this E3, in regards to the conferences. It's not even close, and to say otherwise is to be willfully ignorant, bias, contrarian, or just trying to mess with people. The entire MS conference was interesting, tons of games I'd never heard of, and even stating that they're working on the next console. Creating/buying new 1st party studios. Compared to EA and Square Enix they blew them away.

Bethesda and Ubisoft were great, and Sony's was annoying, but had some good games.

Nintendo's was typical.

My personal hopes for Mortal Kombat 11 and the Rocksteady Superman game did not come to fruition, unfortunately. Maybe at Gamescom?

JazGalaxy 06-13-2018 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzkidd (Post 2514791)
Nearly every outlet and fan on twitter is stating the obvious: that Xbox won this E3, in regards to the conferences. It's not even close, and to say otherwise is to be willfully ignorant, bias, contrarian, or just trying to mess with people. The entire MS conference was interesting, tons of games I'd never heard of, and even stating that they're working on the next console. Creating/buying new 1st party studios. Compared to EA and Square Enix they blew them away.

Bethesda and Ubisoft were great, and Sony's was annoying, but had some good games.

Nintendo's was typical.

My personal hopes for Mortal Kombat 11 and the Rocksteady Superman game did not come to fruition, unfortunately. Maybe at Gamescom?

When talking about “rating” press conferences, it’s hard to even know what we are talking about anymore. Are we rating the consoles future based on the showings they offered? Are we arguing who made the best case for their brand? Are we arguing who had the best “show” in terms of production? Are we arguing who had the best games?

I feel as though it’s impossible to rate all of those together as one thing.

I saw a lot of outlets dumping on Sony because they didn’t get to the games fast enough. They didn’t like the musicians. But can you really hold it against them that some people are impatient and want nothing but a cavalcade of game trailers? That’s an unreasonable expectation.

Wizzkidd 06-13-2018 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JazGalaxy (Post 2514794)
When talking about “rating” press conferences, it’s hard to even know what we are talking about anymore. Are we rating the consoles future based on the showings they offered? Are we arguing who made the best case for their brand? Are we arguing who had the best “show” in terms of production? Are we arguing who had the best games?

I feel as though it’s impossible to rate all of those together as one thing.

I saw a lot of outlets dumping on Sony because they didn’t get to the games fast enough. They didn’t like the musicians. But can you really hold it against them that some people are impatient and want nothing but a cavalcade of game trailers? That’s an unreasonable expectation.

I hear ya. Honestly, I always think "What do you mean, 'who won' E3?" But I also feel like we should all play by the same playbook, so when a lot of people say "so and so" won the last few years, they should be intellectually honest when someone new "won" this time.

In reality, who the F cares? Does the fact that a corporation had the best conference mean I have a better time playing games in my living room? It didn't last year, and it doesn't today. I just don't like hypocrisy. Can we just, for once and for all, be honest and mature? It would be nice. Every conference had pluses and minuses, like always. Each year, the pluses and minuses differ, and talking about the best conferences will be over by this time next week.

Evil Avatar 06-13-2018 08:40 AM

I think it is obvious that Nintendo “Won” E3 by virtue of them showing off an ultra big AAA title that millions of fans were waiting for. Their titles were trending bigger and longer than anything from the other publishers.

As other people have pointed out, Microsoft had the most traditional show, the biggest and the loudest and they showed off the most games. If you are an Xbox fan, you would obviously be saying that Microsoft “Won” E3, but if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that pretty much everything Microsoft was showing off was stuff you can play on the PlayStation, then Sony went on to show off a bunch more stuff you can only play on their system. As a Sony fan, I walk away from E3 knowing that they were the real winners here, they didn’t win the big media advertising fest that is E3 for sure, but Sony gamers were the ones that ended up with the most games and the most exclusives of any of the three systems.

Congrats to Microsoft for putting on a great show, they certainly did a traditional E3 show with a lot of games. If you owned an Xbox One you would be pretty happy. If you spent $500 on an Xbox One X, you are probably still wondering why there are no titles that take advantage of the hardware. Heh. I saw a lot of comments on twitter in the Microsoft threads where people were asking if they are ever going to get “X” titles or even titles that have real obvious upgrades for the X.

I only have to decide now if I want to wait till December to get the Kingdom Hearts 3 Pro or just buy the vanilla Pro right now. I’ll probably wait. My birthday is coming up (for those of you who want to buy me presents) and Mom is going to be pitching in a mountain of cash. $10 for each year I’ve been alive. So, it’s a LOT of money. LOL. I’m going to spin that off into a Pro and probably invest in a 4K TV for the living room.

I’m back on Graveyard shift (as the Supervisor now, Doh!) and so I’m awake all night while everyone else is asleep and it is going to work out best to put a big old TV in the living room so I can sit and play my games all night without waking anyone up. (Sony PlayStation Gold Headphones FTW.)

Another great year for games for sure. It feels like this generation is finally getting started. We have been suffering through Generation Remaster for like 5 years now and it is finally paying off with new games and new franchises.

Evil Avatar 06-13-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzkidd (Post 2514799)
I hear ya. Honestly, I always think "What do you mean, 'who won' E3?" But I also feel like we should all play by the same playbook, so when a lot of people say "so and so" won the last few years, they should be intellectually honest when someone new "won" this time.

In reality, who the F cares? Does the fact that a corporation had the best conference mean I have a better time playing games in my living room?

I think it matters, because E3 is really an industry trade show under the hood. It’s become more about the fans and about putting on a streaming show for consumers on the surface, but under hood the big money people have to decide which system they should be supporting and the media attention that these companies get all year long is partially decided by how good of a job they do at E3.

If Microsoft impresses the media, the big sites like GameSpot will put more time into their titles in the upcoming year. That is why you continue to see those big media kits like the God of War kit with the posters and art book get sent out. Media coverage is free advertising and media coverage for the upomcing year starts at E3. That is partially why it matters who “Won”. Who “Won” is who we will be talking about for the next 12 months.

I guess from that point of view, Ubisoft is the big winner. I know I’ll be looking forward to their titles more than most of the other publishers.

JazGalaxy 06-13-2018 11:12 AM

My list of games that I'm excited about after E3 :

Will Definitely Buy:
Tetris Effect (PSVR)
Astro Bot Rescue Mission(PSVR)
DOA 6 (PS4)
MegaMan 11 (PS4)
Cyberpunk (PS4)

Will Buy If I Have Time:
Dragon Quest 11 (PS4)
Sekiro:Shadows Die Twice (PS4)
Doom Eternal (PS4)
Fire Emblem (Switch
Octopath Traveller (Switch

Would Like To Try For A Minute:
Ghosts Of Tsushima (PS4)
We Happy Few (XBOX)
Hitman 2 (PS4)
Mario Party (Switch)
Red Dead (PS4)


That's pretty much all that interested me. To write it down, it looks like more than I thought. To be honest, the continual presence of games like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty makes me feel like I hate more about the games industry than I actually do. IT feels tedious and boring when so much attention is paid to games that are SO worn out.

SpectralThundr 06-13-2018 11:33 AM

Cyberpunk and Division 2 and only the latter because I have a friend who plays as well and that's what's fun about co op there. I'm more looking forward to content pushes for Battletech than almost anything from E3 with the exception of Cyberpunk.

vallor 06-13-2018 03:27 PM

When this generation is done it is going to be really expensive to have Evil surgically removed from Sony's taint.

The grafting process is has been allowed to progress so far we may need a full on face transplant now and he'll just have to leave his nose, lips, and tongue up their ass. Too much longer and it'll be the entire head. How he breathes considering how much sucking up he does is a modern miracle which should be studied by TOP MEN. Osmosis maybe?

Skull and Bones looks terrible. It will be an unfun gankfest of the highest order and will be populated by people out to ruin each other's day as much as possible. I guess it is appropriate considering the theme.

Xbox clearly was best of show, though I wonder how long those new studios will stay around considering the reverse Midas Touch Microsoft has with their acquisitions.

Sony was a disaster. "Hey, here's one game. Now we're going to take a LONG FUCKING BREAK TO MOVE VENUES WHILE WE BORE YOU WITH BULLSHIT TALKIE TALK so we can show you ONE MORE GAME." The best part about the Sony Conference was how they saved the best for FIRST so I could tell my friends to just go watch the trailer and save themselves over an hour of their lives.

Ubi did OK. Their presentation of Division 2 looked and sounded much better than what was shown in Xbox and a few other places. Instead of the whole corrupt government thing it sounded a lot more... division like. Plague, gangs, etc. Not just rogue government.

So much else to talk about... but I'm so damn tired of it all!

rubbishfoo 06-15-2018 06:58 AM

I don't get too crazy over E3, but like it because of all the announcements.

Cyberpunk is what I was hoping to hear more about & it kinda has me pumped.

Other than that... I do like Nintendo quite a bit, but felt they needed a bit more presence. I would have liked to hear more about Metroid & Pikmin. As it is... Super Smash Bros Ultimate looks pretty damn cool & I'm sure I'll pick it up.

I think I'm gonna pickup a PS4 at some point. Anyone have one they wanna sell, or know a good deal?


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