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Emabulator 07-07-2018 12:38 PM

ArenaNet fires two Guild Wars 2 writers over Twitter exchange with YouTuber
 

Eurogamer has the story.

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UPDATE 2.30PM BST: I've received an official ArenaNet statement. It reads: "We strive to cultivate an atmosphere of transparency around the making of our games and encourage our teams to be involved in open, positive discussion with our community. Earlier this week, two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communication with our players and fans, and they are no longer with the company."

ORIGINAL STORY 1.30PM BST: ArenaNet has fired two writers ostensibly for their reactions to Twitter comments from a partnered Guild Wars 2 YouTuber.

"Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players," announced ArenaNet co-founder and president Mike O'Brien in the Guild Wars 2 forum. "Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they're no longer with the company.

"I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you."

The writers in question are Jessica Price, who had been with ArenaNet nearly a year, and Peter Fries, who had been with ArenaNet for more than 13 years.
Read on.

brandonjclark 07-07-2018 02:25 PM

Let me see if I'm getting this right here....


A female game developer goes on a feminist rant on the Internet over a suggestion (non-sexist) from a YouTuber and is fired for it?

ArenaNet, I love you!

Sensei-X 07-07-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonjclark (Post 2516459)
Let me see if I'm getting this right here....


A female game developer goes on a feminist rant on the Internet over a suggestion (non-sexist) from a YouTuber and is fired for it?

ArenaNet, I love you!

Meh, don't look too much into it, I'd bet money many people at the company agree with her but are smart enough not to spout off in a public forum about it. Companies don't like it when you force them into a position where they need to defend you, especially if you're not even not that important in the grand scheme of the company's financial future. Just ask James Damore about his diversity manifesto. You'd think people would've learned a thing or two from that stupid bitch Roseanne Barr torpedoing her career over stupid shit. She was practically guaranteed at least two more seasons and all she had to do was shut up and not make an ass of herself in public and she managed to fuck that up royally.

Dag-Sabot 07-07-2018 02:48 PM

That was hilarious and it prompted me to carefully rewatch the planet of the apes.

Skunk 07-07-2018 04:07 PM

Kinda interesting, because looking at the response on twitter it seems like Arena smelled the blood in the water from the fan base. Particularly with respect to Peter Fries, who tried to come to her aid but did so in a very hamfisted way. He basically said people shouldn't offer their unsolicited opinions through social media, which prompted a huge backlash.

If I was Arena.net I'd be pissed to max throttle because I've got a senior guy out there spouting some clearly dumb-ass shit and he's got enough seniority to make it appear like this a commonly held belief across the organization.

My guess? Management called them in and demanded they do some Twitter-grovelling to the fans, and they attempted to defend themselves. If cyberpunk has taught me anything, it's that corporations don't value disobedience.

vallor 07-07-2018 04:30 PM

What a shitshow. Price went way overboard with her tweet in response to a person who pretty much engaged her with a reasonable response trying to start a dialog. Peter was white knighting or something. No idea what he thought he was doing. Met him once, seemed like a decent enough guy but... sheesh.

Arena.Net is in the heart of Liberal-Town Washington State and most of the staff is so progressive even though they are all issued two monitors for work they only use the left one.

You can be sure there is a great deal of hurt feel-feels right now and maybe even a small rebellion brewing. Monday will be interesting.

SpectralThundr 07-07-2018 05:15 PM

Apparently she made some vicious tweets towards Total Biscuit when he passed away as well. Sounds like a real progressive winner!

inscribed 07-07-2018 05:40 PM

If you've got your employer's name plastered over your social media account, and you're specifically posting about a work-related subject... then you really shouldn't be surprised to have fans of your employer responding. You should also be enough of an adult to realize you probably shouldn't be kicking up a shitstorm while broadcasting who you work for. If you want privacy, don't broadcast who you work for and keep your settings restricted to friends only.


The sad part is, this whole thing comes right after a reddit AMA where Deroir had just mentioned how big of a fan of her work he was. He was probably looking forward to starting a discussion with someone he looks up to in the field, only to have not one, but two developers turn around really shit on him.

MadMurdock_0311 07-07-2018 07:32 PM

"Boohoo, this is my private social media account. I'm off the clock"

Private? No, anything you say on a social media platform is far from private. If you want to have such opinions, keep them off the internet unless you want to gamble with your job. I swear, people don't fucking learn.

That Deroir dude was nothing but civil, yet Price had to bring up gender like all other useless modern feminists.

She comes off like a total asshole during her replies and I don't feel bad that she lost her job. At all. Maybe she can go join Zoe Quinn on her next game.

MadMurdock_0311 07-07-2018 07:39 PM

Haha. The more I read into this, the more I'm laughing.

I'm so tired of all these toxic feminists. Yea, we get it, you have a vagina. Shut the fuck up about it already. You're not oppressed.

Mozgus 07-08-2018 01:11 AM

Man I'm sick of people being fired immediately over saying stupid shit on both sides. It rarely happens like this I admit, where a radical left winger gets shit canned, but still, I dont like this. I'd rather they give her an ultimatum where she is forced to apologize for trashing the company's customers, or she can take her leave. Her ego was out of control. Remember when "the customer is always right"? The poor bastard did nothing but try to explain that it's possible to write a good character in an MMO, because this woman bitched about how it's not possible. He was trying to give her a little boost, and she had none of it.

But this is why I only do anonymous accounts on social media.

AlfredT 07-08-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mozgus (Post 2516491)
Man I'm sick of people being fired immediately over saying stupid shit on both sides. It rarely happens like this I admit, where a radical left winger gets shit canned, but still, I dont like this. I'd rather they give her an ultimatum where she is forced to apologize for trashing the company's customers, or she can take her leave. Her ego was out of control. Remember when "the customer is always right"? The poor bastard did nothing but try to explain that it's possible to write a good character in an MMO, because this woman bitched about how it's not possible. He was trying to give her a little boost, and she had none of it.

But this is why I only do anonymous accounts on social media.

I for one, am a full proponent of people living with the consequences of their stupidity. Like Spectral's parents.

SpectralThundr 07-08-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AlfredT (Post 2516497)
I for one, am a full proponent of people living with the consequences of their stupidity. Like Spectral's parents.

And thank you for continually proving the point of what vile people liberals are.

AlfredT 07-08-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2516504)
And thank you for continually proving the point of what vile people liberals are.

Yup not adhering to stupid conspiracy theories that appeal to your idiotic insecurities is vile.

You stupid insipid fuck. :)

AlfredT 07-08-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralThundr (Post 2516472)
Apparently she made some vicious tweets towards Total Biscuit when he passed away as well. Sounds like a real progressive winner!

Cuz progressives are known for their twitter shenanigans in this day and age...

And because you believe in civil polite discussion (ha!)

Also, keep calling me liberal... first of all, I'm not a liberal.. secondly Liberalism (the word traditionally defined, not your neo left Amurrican idiocy) is a valid ideology. But hey, just call them cucks and make stupid frog cartoons.. and of course snowflakes..

Then freak out at any comparison to nazis to your side etc.


Fucking hypocritical douchenozzle.

(Off, but on topic, Arena net writer bitch got what she deserved.)

SpectralThundr 07-08-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AlfredT (Post 2516506)
Cuz progressives are known for their twitter shenanigans in this day and age...

And because you believe in civil polite discussion (ha!)

Also, keep calling me liberal... first of all, I'm not a liberal.. secondly Liberalism (the word traditionally defined, not your neo left Amurrican idiocy) is a valid ideology. But hey, just call them cucks and make stupid frog cartoons.. and of course snowflakes..

Then freak out at any comparison to nazis to your side etc.


Fucking hypocritical douchenozzle.

(Off, but on topic, Arena net writer bitch got what she deserved.)

Did you see what Peter Fonda wrote about Baron Trump? The left is unhinged, and the only people still in denial about it are liberals. So what does that make you sunshine?

Skunk 07-08-2018 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mozgus (Post 2516491)
It rarely happens like this I admit, where a radical left winger gets shit canned, but still, I dont like this. I'd rather they give her an ultimatum where she is forced to apologize for trashing the company's customers, or she can take her leave.

This is probably exactly what happened; guess which choice they made?

I lived in the Puget Sound area for 3 years and just recently moved away. It was shocking how self-entitled people there were. NOT JUST THE LIBERALS. ALSO THE SEMI-RURAL CONSERVATIVES. It's a really weird little pocket of America where everyone feels like they are being slighted against and need to explain themselves. It got old really fast.

By contrast I now live in California and find it to be comparatively chill and rational.

Rommel 07-09-2018 03:59 AM

Really, really weird story. Employee goes to public forum to discuss, gets a polite response from the masses in return and blows up. Then her drunk friend goes and makes an equal-sized fool of himself. I'm glad these two got fired, I sure wouldn't want them associated my company's name if this is how they react to a friendly public response they invoked.

ashikenshin 07-09-2018 06:37 AM

While I don't think you should be fired for being a twat on social media. Progressives have been pushing for this kind of reaction for a while, now they have to deal with it when it happens to them as well. Expect a lot of articles stating something along the lines of "you shouldn't be fired for calling out racists on social media" lol

Mozgus 07-09-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin (Post 2516538)
While I don't think you should be fired for being a twat on social media. Progressives have been pushing for this kind of reaction for a while, now they have to deal with it when it happens to them as well. Expect a lot of articles stating something along the lines of "you shouldn't be fired for calling out racists on social media" lol

Oh the media spin on this even took like 3 hours. The usual suspects like kotaku immediately defended her, made her out to be some hero against the sexist trolls. She's been interviewed about the firing as well and she obviously learned nothing. She said she feels awful that she encouraged other women to work for ANet and acts like they'll get fired if they "speak the truth" as well. The truth...lol jesus christ. She also apparently has no idea the man was also fired alongside her, since that destroys her sexism narrative.


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