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Old 06-28-2014, 09:40 PM   #81
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Bullshit. Clearly you don't spend much time with the millions of Americans who hate America, including but not limited to many:

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Children of illegal immigrants, who start fights over the presence of the American flag at their American public school and the like.
La Raza members.
Members of the Obama White House.
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In fact, I'd say there is a rapidly shrinking population of people proud to be American. Progressives are successfully destroying that, along with the country.
/thread right there.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:33 PM   #82
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Yeah, nationalism has been declining markedly in the last decades. Most out of leftist fear that nationalism might lead to a repeat of horrors like Nazi Germany--that is nationalism has become a suspect political value. Goes right along with the leftist attack on the idea of American exceptionalism--which is appropriate.

Anyway, rankling others or not, I don't mind. History won't be as kind to modern America as many seem to think.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:39 PM   #83
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Yeah, nationalism has been declining markedly in the last decades. Most out of leftist fear that nationalism might lead to a repeat of horrors like Nazi Germany--that is nationalism has become a suspect political value. Goes right along with the leftist attack on the idea of American exceptionalism--which is appropriate.

Anyway, rankling others or not, I don't mind. History won't be as kind to modern America as many seem to think.
If you hate the US so much, you're free to get the fuck on out.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:49 PM   #84
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If you hate the US so much, you're free to get the fuck on out.
Have you not been paying attention? I want nothing more.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:53 PM   #85
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Have you not been paying attention? I want nothing more.
So DO ETTT!!!!! Like has been said to you multiple times, put up or shut up.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:10 PM   #86
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So DO ETTT!!!!! Like has been said to you multiple times, put up or shut up.
:| just as soon as a seasteads exist. You really have a short memory, huh.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:29 PM   #87
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:| just as soon as a seasteads exist. You really have a short memory, huh.
Blueseed off your radar now eh? Not surprised.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:43 PM   #88
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:44 PM   #89
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Blueseed off your radar now eh? Not surprised.
Short memory.
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Old 06-29-2014, 02:10 AM   #91
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Bullshit. Clearly you don't spend much time with the millions of Americans who hate America, including but not limited to many:

Progressives
Academics
Hollywood Actors/producers/writers/directors/etc.
Children of illegal immigrants, who start fights over the presence of the American flag at their American public school and the like.
La Raza members.
Members of the Obama White House.
Etc.

In fact, I'd say there is a rapidly shrinking population of people proud to be American. Progressives are successfully destroying that, along with the country.
I was trying to be subtle but I guess I overshot.

In this board there are more people proud to be an american than not. Therefore when Anenome describes the country as the lesser of evils and he refuses to die an American citizen I think there are a few people here who really get their panties in a twist.
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Old 06-29-2014, 06:32 AM   #92
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In this board there are more people proud to be an american than not.
Yup. Conservative voices outnumber progressive stupidity here.

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That would be p**sy progressives describing conservatives' love of country.
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Your link doesn't work sparky.
Strange. Try this one.
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Wrong. Short-memory Venom strikes again.

Go back and quote me. My position on renouncing is more nuanced and conditional than you're willing to admit. It's not surprising you don't remember, since nuanced positions are hard to remember.
Anyone that has read more than three of your posts should realize how nuanced and conditional all of your claims are. Look no further than "kinda foolish" apparently being conditional in that you refused to apply your judgement on yourself. Intending to move in 2014 - apparently - never meant you intended to move in 2014. Any claim of yours appears to be nuanced and conditional in the sense that it's all just a dream. Look no further as to how you cannot understand your contact with your "friend's" recruiter wasn't simply a conversation... according to your own story.

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I'll paraphrase again for you, though I'm sure with your memory trouble you'll forget again in time.
Which version is this going to be?

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If I'm living on a seastead tomorrow, let's say in the California EEZ, it does not make sense to renounce the next day. I will need a place to renounce to, which means I'll need either citizenship in another country (most places don't tax overseas earnings), or ideally I will get to live in a politically independent seastead.
Well, according to your previous claims, you should be living on a seastead by the end of 2014.

But that could take 20+ years to result, if it ever does in my lifetime. So, again as I said, it may not be possible for me. But it will be possible for those who come after me, and that's enough for me.

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Further beyond that, I will want the ability to travel to ancap events within the US to raise money, speak about what we're building, etc., and the US has of late been denying entry visas to renouncers.
Like Blueseed? When you give these lectures, make sure you don't offer anything concrete... because we all know how that goes for you.

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Besides, the US only taxes over $85k, and I may not ever earn over that even in a seastead.
Insanity! So much for everyone flipping a switch to become rich overnight.

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In short my position is this: I want to renounce and I will do so the minute it makes sense.

And if all else fails, I will renounce before I die regardless, simply on principle. I will not die a US citizen if I can help it.
At least you seem to have learned not to make any other claims outside of those that exist in the realm of ambiguity.

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Have you not been paying attention? I want nothing more.
Apparently there is something you want more. That is your dream of an ancap utopia. You could leave the United States if you truly wanted nothing more - you don't. That's not even up for debate. You need the United States, and will continue to for the foreseeable future.

You've even gone as far as to state that you may not (now) renounce your citizenship in the future so you can go to speaking events..... I'm shocked you think that would be needed when you want to believe people will be flocking to you.
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