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Old 05-05-2018, 02:28 PM   #1
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George Lucas Changed A Scene In Solo: A Star Wars Story


Ron Howard listens to his elders. GameSpot has the story.

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Lucasfilm under the Disney label has become the new caretakers of the Star Wars franchise, but original visionary George Lucas still has some pull. Ron Howard, who directed the upcoming Solo: A Star Wars Story, revealed that his old colleague Lucas had some feedback for a scene, and he took it.

"We were doing a scene and he was trying to stay out of the way, but he did lean over and he said, 'You know what Han would really do there?'" Howard said on The Late Show (via EW). "I said, 'What?' And he told me the joke, he gave me a little joke. And I said [to the crew], 'Hey, guess what? Here's what we're gonna do in the next take.' So I know when I hear a good idea."

Given the tone of the anecdote, it seems that Lucas' suggestion likely made the cut--though we'll probably have to hear some follow-up from Howard on which quip in particular sprung from the mind of the series creator. Lucas did create Han Solo, and this movie is meant to be a throwback to the iconic rogue, so it makes sense that he'd have thoughts on how to steer the characterization.

Of course, Lucas has seemed at times peevish at the direction of the new films under Disney's direction. When The Force Awakens released, he made comments indicating frustration that the company had deviated from his own vision for the series. More recently, he said The Last Jedi was "beautifully made" but stopped short of any further thoughts.
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TFA was a disappointment. I didn't think it possible that the next one could be worse, but it was. The red room scenes make me facepalm just thinking about them...like some cheap porn video without any sex and the best set piece they could afford on a shoe string budget.

Such a disappointment. Really a shame.
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Old 05-05-2018, 04:41 PM   #3
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TFA was a disappointment. I didn't think it possible that the next one could be worse, but it was. The red room scenes make me facepalm just thinking about them...like some cheap porn video without any sex and the best set piece they could afford on a shoe string budget.

Such a disappointment. Really a shame.
It's really hard to take George seriously on any level anymore after the shitfest that were Episodes 1,2 and 3. While I'm not saying 7 and 8 are masterpieces, it's just cringe-worthy to hear people say that maybe they weren't so bad now. No, they were shit and no amount of horrible sequels will ever fix that mess. Lucas phoned in all three movies (despite claims that he had spent years working on them and had simply been waiting for special effects to catch up with his "vision" for the prequels). And people talk about the casting for Han as the worse ever while conveniently having selective amnesia about the horrible casting choice that Hayden Christensen was for Anakin. When all is said and done I think I'll happily just pretend Star Wars started with Episode 4 and ended with 6 and forget all the ugliness that came afterwards. That being said I think Solo will do well, simply because people want a Star Wars where the characters they grew up liking are guaranteed not to die a horrible horrible death before the credits roll.
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Old 05-05-2018, 04:46 PM   #4
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The same George Lucas who created the whole "Han shot first" controversy because of his inability to step away. After Kathleen Kennedy he was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars.

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TFA was a disappointment. I didn't think it possible that the next one could be worse, but it was. The red room scenes make me facepalm just thinking about them...like some cheap porn video without any sex and the best set piece they could afford on a shoe string budget.

Such a disappointment. Really a shame.
There's far more wrong with that scene if you really pay attention. http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/sta...ror-rey-death/
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Old 05-05-2018, 05:45 PM   #5
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My obligatory statement in all Star Wars threads.

The originals are overrated and the prequels are underrated. I’m not saying that the originals suck or that the prequels are great. Just that they are overrated and underrated respectively. And episode 8 was just terrible. It really did make the prequels look much better by comparison.
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Old 05-05-2018, 06:34 PM   #6
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The originals were a hit because of the themes and special effects. The prequels were when Georgie lost his faith and started to try to explain everything with "science." That's one of the reasons they weren't as good.

The new ones are as if they knew how everything looked but didn't understand what's going behind it. It's like a good looking cake that tastes like shit.

I always think of this picture when I think of Disney's Star Wars

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Old 05-06-2018, 10:32 AM   #7
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I think the idea that Lucas is fond of royally f-ing up his own creations shouldn't have come as a surprise, if you look at his work prior to the prequels.
  • The Ewok Adventure movies, based on Lucas's ideas
    • The first movie is about two kids working with the Ewoks to rescue their parents. Yay!
    • The second movie literally kills off the entire family except for the little girl at the very beginning. Whuh?
  • Willow sequel novels
    • The first book co-written by Lucas, kills off most of the established characters off 'camera', right off the bat.
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Old 05-06-2018, 01:53 PM   #8
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My obligatory statement in all Star Wars threads.

The originals are overrated and the prequels are underrated. I’m not saying that the originals suck or that the prequels are great. Just that they are overrated and underrated respectively. And episode 8 was just terrible. It really did make the prequels look much better by comparison.
This is exactly what I think about the movies, as well. Couldn't have said it better.
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We just watched Attack Of The Clones last night for movie night. I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. I can honestly say: the prequels are not underrated... It was REALLY difficult to watch any scene with Hayden Christensen (Annakin) in it. And it was mostly a chick-flick (Annie and Padmé sitting in a tree...)

As for the originals, the first one (Episode 4) is the best of them all by far. Not overrated at all in my opinion. Empire? That one actually is overrated if you asked me. I didn't like it when I first saw it in theaters. I hated the fact that it was literally the first reel of a movie and we had to wait 3 freaking years for the second reel. People who see it on video and then get to watch Jedi right after probably can appreciate it more, but that ending completely ruined the movie for me.

I LOVED Return of the Jedi in theaters when I was younger. Now? Not so much.

The new ones? I was excited at first, but now I'm burned out. I have no desire to watch this Solo movie. Maybe they should bring Lucas back in?
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The prequels were bad but at least they had character arcs, cool concepts, and the story made sense, even if it was directed and acted poorly. These new ones are garbage through and through and are definitely worse.
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The prequels were bad but at least they had character arcs, cool concepts, and the story made sense, even if it was directed and acted poorly. These new ones are garbage through and through and are definitely worse.
Say what? "Character arcs"??? Are you fracking kidding? Anakin goes from Hero to Child Murderer literally overnight. That's not a character arc, that's just flipping a coin and having it come up with the scratched off head instead of the clean head.

A character arc would be seeing that he had evil in him from the beginning and then having it come out a little at a time until he becomes what we all knew he would be eventually through a series of significant experiences that shaped his character.

No one in the story gets that kind of a treatment.
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My 2 cents. I loved the original trilogy. I liked the prequels and had no issue with them. I was happy that these movies were being made at the time and it was Star Wars. I liked the political aspect and the evolution of Darth Vader. I did not like the new ones under Disney but I will watch Solo.
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I like them all. I just like feeling like I am in the Star Wars universe watching something go down so anything is fun and cool to me. But I am not the biggest fan of the prequels' structure. If anything Episode 2 should have been the beginning but somehow mix in Qui Gon and Maul, E3 should have been E2 but extended out with more Vader before his fight with Obi Wan. It would have been awesome to see Vader full on badass for awhile before he got fucked up by Obi Wan. Although it would have demanded way more from Christensen as an actor. Then E3 is all Vader completely losing it, his defeat that lead to his deformity, and then him completely going savage mode as the Vader we all know and love.
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Star Wars is officially dead to me. I'll watch them with Movie Pass, or stream them when available, but I don't remember the last time I enjoyed any movie set in the SW universe. I don't even think the original trilogy is that good anymore... Sure, I loved them as a kid, but they don't hold up for me.
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Mark Hamill was not a good actor in the original three films.
Hayden Christianson was not a good actor in the next three films.
The Ewoks were moronic.
Jar Jar will be remembered as one of the worst character creations of all time.
The last two films have been workmanlike and mediocre.

The original film launched a sensation for a whole host of reasons that are hard to replicate. It was pre-cable, pre-Internet, and pre-mobile phones, so there was far less to distract and it was far easier to reach a huge shared audience with advertising. It tied in toys and games in a way that no movie ever had previously. It used special effects that were groundbreaking and visually amazing for the time. It had an epic tale of good versus evil. It was unique in many ways.

I'll never forget it, and nothing in the series will ever live up to it or overshadow it. In fact, the only film I can say has come close to creating the same kind of buzz and effect culturally for me has been Infinity War. That film was just epic. Really enjoyable.
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Mark Hamill was not a good actor in the original three films.
Hayden Christianson was not a good actor in the next three films.
The Ewoks were moronic.
Jar Jar will be remembered as one of the worst character creations of all time.
All true. Some will say that Luke wasn't supposed to be really likable in the originals but I think that's just Monday Morning quarterbacking. People are more cynical about their entertainment today. And then there's my secondary Prequels Hypothesis, that the prequels were missing that really likable Han Solo type character to glue them all together. If they had that character, people would have been more forgiving of all of the crap.
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Mark Hamill was not a good actor in the original three films.
In the first movie that helped him a LOT because he was supposed to be a clueless farm boy who was out of his element. The next two movies, not so much.
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Cool, sounds like Lando is down for smoking some dicks.

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