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Old 05-02-2017, 04:43 PM   #1
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Nintendo Switch Expected To Hit "Relative Parity" With Wii In Terms Of Sales


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The Nintendo Switch is off to a hot start, selling 2.74 million consoles in its first month, well ahead of Nintendo's first-month forecast of 2 million units. Now, Nintendo president Tatsumi Kimishima has said Nintendo believes the console can reach "relative parity" with the Wii, which sold more than 100 million units.

Part of what might help the Switch push big numbers is that Nintendo believes that one system might not be enough for each household, considering the hybrid nature of the console.

"The truth is we want to raise the installed base of Nintendo Switch up to the same level as Wii," Nintendo president Tatsumi Kimishima said during a financial Q&A session recently. "As we mentioned during our presentation, Nintendo Switch in America had the fastest start of any Nintendo hardware, despite launching in March.

"If our sales go according to our plan this fiscal year, we will be able to see Nintendo Switch gaining the momentum in which it can approach relative parity with Wii afterwards," he added. "Plus, considering that Nintendo Switch is a home console video game system that you can take with you on the go so you can play anytime, anywhere, with anyone, we think there will be households that feel as though one is not really enough. This is another point that drives us to match the scale of Wii's popularity with Nintendo Switch."

Software is key to the success of hardware, and this is no different for the Switch. Kimishima also talked about how Nintendo plans to launch "one title after another with no gaps" to help the platform thrive.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:11 PM   #2
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You know, truth be told, I've used mine more since I got it than I used my xbone period. I only have 3 games, zelda, snake pass, and mario cart, and all 3 have been massive fun.
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:04 PM   #3
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I'm sure we'll pick one up for Xmas.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:29 AM   #4
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I've used it constantly since launch. However Zelda is done now and Mario Kart is wearing thin. They need some decent games between now and xmas but i fear all they have is Arms (which will be waggle shit) and Splatoon (semi port, multiplayer only, paid online = not interested).

Nintendo must release some third party titles before Mario or console sales and usage will fall off of a cliff. I hope they have big plans for E3 and something ready for release straight after.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:17 AM   #6
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I've used it constantly since launch. However Zelda is done now and Mario Kart is wearing thin. They need some decent games between now and xmas but i fear all they have is Arms (which will be waggle shit) and Splatoon (semi port, multiplayer only, paid online = not interested).

Nintendo must release some third party titles before Mario or console sales and usage will fall off of a cliff. I hope they have big plans for E3 and something ready for release straight after.
Mario Odyssey is coming out this fall.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:58 AM   #7
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I really want one, but haven't got the scratch. We'll see about a later date.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:27 AM   #8
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I've used it constantly since launch. However Zelda is done now and Mario Kart is wearing thin. They need some decent games between now and xmas but i fear all they have is Arms (which will be waggle shit) and Splatoon (semi port, multiplayer only, paid online = not interested).

Nintendo must release some third party titles before Mario or console sales and usage will fall off of a cliff. I hope they have big plans for E3 and something ready for release straight after.
It depends largely on your taste, but with ARMS you can turn the controls off, and those who have played the demo said they were surprised at how deep it was, so that game may surprise people.

Disgaea 5 is also coming this month, but again, you have to be into tactical role playing games. (I personally am)

Splatoon 2 Will also be a major draw, despite of course some people not liking it for being straight up MP pretty much.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is also slated to hit this year.

FIFA and NBA2K are coming this year as well if you're into sports titles.

Fire Emblem Warriors is coming in the fall, which is a must purchase for me.

That said, I still agree with your sentiment. They need to kill it at E3 to keep momentum and interest going. If people know games like a full fledged Metroid and Animal Crossing are coming, it'll making dealing with a few month long droughts tolerable.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:53 AM   #9
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and Splatoon (semi port, multiplayer only, paid online = not interested).
First Splatoon had a campaign. Splatoon 2's campaign is supposedly taking place two years later. Dunno if I'd get it for that--personally wouldn't get Battlefield or CoD or the like for SP either--though I did get a decent amount of playtime on the campaign for the first game.

Don't think I'd consider it much of a port though, changing from the tablet control to joy-cons/pro controller should make a sizeable difference in core gameplay. It's something they would've had to rebuild a lot of the game around. Looks like the system change is allowing them to expand options for local/co-op play too. That said, I don't doubt they'll be reusing whatever assets they can.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:50 AM   #10
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I want one so badly (especially before all those great games drop!), but I have to hold fast to the rule. Don't buy until the first price drop or first hardware revision.
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:01 AM   #11
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It is Nintendo, never buy first generation unless you are a diehard gamer. Always wait for the second generation if you can (or just know you will need to spend more to trade up or know you are always getting the inferior experience - I usually err on the later).

As for the Switch, we will have to wait and see if this will take off like the Wii or the DS. One potential problem with their aggressive stance is that multiple Switches in the same household only holds true when it is economically viable. At $300 a pop, I do not see many households being willing to buy two or more, unlike households which may have multiple 3DS devices.
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I want one so badly (especially before all those great games drop!), but I have to hold fast to the rule. Don't buy until the first price drop or first hardware revision.
If you are into homebrew, the first hardware version is usually the one with the flaws that let you hack it. Also, later consoles are not always better and are usually made with cheaper parts. Remember the Vita? The later version was a major downgrade in the screen. The PS3 replaced a nice front loading system with a cheap plastic hood. It's hit or miss I think.

Also, the first versions of systems usually sell for more than the later versions.

But if you don't care about that, the price is usually lower as you say.
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Nintendo always makes incremental improvements, not downgrades, to they systems. Just last generation 3DS you went from a price drop, to a larger display, to a faster processor and C-stick.

I would expect similar iterations for the Switch, so if you are looking to have the best hardware, it would be best to wait to purchase the Switch.
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I am not buying one until they bundle it with the NES Classic I was never able to get for my son. So in other words, NEVER.
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Nintendo always makes incremental improvements, not downgrades, to they systems. Just last generation 3DS you went from a price drop, to a larger display, to a faster processor and C-stick.

I would expect similar iterations for the Switch, so if you are looking to have the best hardware, it would be best to wait to purchase the Switch.
I guess it will depend on whether they treat it as one of their handhelds, or one of their home consoles. Their home consoles rarely get updated versions. Meanwhile their handhelds have a new version every time I blink.
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The key point to remember with Switch is that everyone who actually owns one seems to be happy with it. Yes I have reservations about the upcoming games but the machine itself is great, the concept works and i'm excited for the future. Only idiots like spectral constantly crow about something they've never even used.
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Well there is --a lot-- to go over in this thread. Excuse me while I do the annoying thing EvilAvatar is most known for, after baby rape and right wing conspiracy theories of course: Addressing each line as an individual quote.

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"The truth is we want to raise the installed base of Nintendo Switch up to the same level as Wii,"
I am sure Nintendo wants the Switch to replicate the sales of its greatest console success and the third best in industry history. I want a fourth penis.

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"As we mentioned during our presentation, Nintendo Switch in America had the fastest start of any Nintendo hardware, despite launching in March.
This does not appear to be true. Even if the Wii didn't have better figures in its opening days, it's hard to judge sales "Speed" when discussing Nintendo, since they never have a large enough inventory to demonstrate their console's capacity to deplete inventory.

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Well now this is interesting. After marketing the Switch as console-first, mobile-second and after reaffirming commitment to the 3DS line of products, including a new 2DS release soon, Nintendo is now banking on mobile-first to produce that bank. It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off. I actually agree that the product is best marketed as a mobile device but, after the informational disaster that was the WiiU, I for one would not obfuscate the marketing were I working for Nintendo. As for selling one per household member? Not at $300 apiece, they aren't. Remember how well the 3DS sold at $249.99.
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It depends largely on your taste, but with ARMS you can turn the controls off, and those who have played the demo said they were surprised at how deep it was, so that game may surprise people.
Surprise people in just how vapid it is, I believe. I've heard exactly the opposite reaction from my "Influencers," or whatever idiots on YouTube call themselves these days. The going opinion I'm aware of is that it's barely-enough game to not be included in the not-enough game that is 1-2 Switch. Punch Out it isn't and I suspect it will go down with The Wonderful 101, Wii Music and some of the recent Paper Mario titles as evidence not every 1st or 2nd party Nintendo is great but, instead, the fandom chooses to ignore the misses.

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Splatoon 2 ... Xenoblade Chronicles 2... FIFA and NBA2K ... Fire Emblem Warriors
The Nintendo games you listed do well to very well. They do not traditionally move huge number of systems, though. As for the sports games, those gamers aren't known as huge supporters of portable releases. A sports gamer is more likely to buy FIFA for PS4 or XBOne, as multiplatform titles are usually preferred for the machine with the best graphics or online system.
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Surprise people in just how vapid it is, I believe. I've heard exactly the opposite reaction from my "Influencers," or whatever idiots on YouTube call themselves these days. The going opinion I'm aware of is that it's barely-enough game to not be included in the not-enough game that is 1-2 Switch. Punch Out it isn't and I suspect it will go down with The Wonderful 101, Wii Music and some of the recent Paper Mario titles as evidence not every 1st or 2nd party Nintendo is great but, instead, the fandom chooses to ignore the misses.
Thats interesting. I've heard the opposite with "influencers". It could be true that the game is shallow garbage. I want to say "ah it's Nintendo, it'll be fun" but they have been known to drop a steaming pile of crap or two recently. Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival was the biggest slap in the face from them in a decade. Followed closely by Star Fox Zero.


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The Nintendo games you listed do well to very well. They do not traditionally move huge number of systems, though. As for the sports games, those gamers aren't known as huge supporters of portable releases. A sports gamer is more likely to buy FIFA for PS4 or XBOne, as multiplatform titles are usually preferred for the machine with the best graphics or online system.
You're right. Outside of Zelda and Kart, which already released - the only slated "system seller" this year is Mario, but while the games mentioned above aren't system sellers on their own, I think collectively they'll help quite a bit. I'm really looking forward to Xenoblade 2 and Fire Emblem Warriors personnaly. Neither of them alone would convince me to buy a system, but if you add up the best of the announced games this year, it's not horrible. I'm not arguing its amazing, but 8 months out, at the end of the year, when faced with a choice to buy the Switch or not, having Zelda, Kart, Mario, Xenoblade, Fire Emblem Warriors, Splatoon 2, and a few more big "niche" titles like Disgaea 5 and FIFA/NBA should help. It's not the greatest first 8 months lineup ever, and I've been saying they need a really strong E3. We'll see. Nintendo could still crash and burn the Switch if they don't start announcing games soon.
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A sports gamer is more likely to buy FIFA for PS4 or XBOne, as multiplatform titles are usually preferred for the machine with the best graphics or online system.
The ability to take said sports games with them anywhere could tip them towards the Switch version.

If more and more games have Switch versions, that choice starts to have real meaning.
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The ability to take said sports games with them anywhere could tip them towards the Switch version.

If more and more games have Switch versions, that choice starts to have real meaning.
Precisely.

For example, if Persona 5 had gotten a simultaneous Switch release and wasn't a PS4 exclusive...I probably would have opted for the Switch version.
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