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Old 03-16-2018, 04:25 PM   #21
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I don't think they invested money into this franchise across a dozen+ movies just to kill off the characters.
When contracts are up and some of the actors are looking to move away from the films; Disney is looking for fresh/cheaper talent, a film like this is the best time to kill them off since all the films are connected at this point.
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:49 PM   #22
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You actually watch these movies for the story?

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That is an awfully big laugh. And you did two separate posts on it. You must really not have much else going on in life if people enjoying things different from you gives you so much entertainment. Most people could not care less I'm sure, but you go girl!
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:12 PM   #23
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This looks really good!

I can't wait to see the last 10 years of movies come to a conclusion but I know it will be really hard for them to do the right amount of justice to all the characters. I don't think they'll be able to give the fans enough screen time for any particular hero.

At best each hero or group will be paired off against another equal threat, those who will be staying around for the next phase will be getting some of the more intriguing moments and those they're trying to phase out will either get dramatic exits or be overshadowed (like the Stark/Sky Lord exchange).

Either way I think it will be epic and it's one I'm going to go watch in the super special theater where they bring all the food and drinks out to you and there's only 20 people.

This will be an event!
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:07 PM   #24
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That is an awfully big laugh. And you did two separate posts on it. You must really not have much else going on in life if people enjoying things different from you gives you so much entertainment. Most people could not care less I'm sure, but you go girl!
If you cant' spare the 20 seconds it took me to post both while taking a crap during.. a crap you must be a really important and busy guy!
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:59 PM   #25
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I don't think Chris Evans has any career outside Captain America, so while he is probably tired of playing the character, he will have zero career if the character dies. So, I don't see that happening.

This is less true of Chris Hemsworth, who still gets a lot of parts outside of Thor, but Thor is where the big money is so I imagine he will also keep playing the character.

Downy Jr is the only one you have to question, he has done a ton of these films and expressed that he is kinda burned out, but he is also the highest paid of anyone in the series so I imagine that while he might grouse about being Iron Man for the 10th time, he will still keep coming back for every movie from now until the end of time.

Same with Hugh Jackman and Wolverine. He said he was done after Logan, but I suspect that the second they wave that $20 million paycheck at him, he will cave.

Like Daniel Craig with James Bond. It took like $200 million to get him back, but they got him back.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:26 PM   #26
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I think they're missing a golden opportunity for a reset away from the literally old crew of actors and to a new group with a massive die-off in Infinity War. If they don't kill anyone of substance off, they'll lose that chance AND the movie will honestly just be another lame hero-is-bulletproof film.

Vision, Iron Man, Captain America (perhaps), Thor, Hulk, are all ripe for a reset with a younger actor. A few more are as well.

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Old 03-16-2018, 08:44 PM   #27
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I don't think Chris Evans has any career outside Captain America, so while he is probably tired of playing the character, he will have zero career if the character dies. So, I don't see that happening.

This is less true of Chris Hemsworth, who still gets a lot of parts outside of Thor, but Thor is where the big money is so I imagine he will also keep playing the character.

Downy Jr is the only one you have to question, he has done a ton of these films and expressed that he is kinda burned out, but he is also the highest paid of anyone in the series so I imagine that while he might grouse about being Iron Man for the 10th time, he will still keep coming back for every movie from now until the end of time.

Same with Hugh Jackman and Wolverine. He said he was done after Logan, but I suspect that the second they wave that $20 million paycheck at him, he will cave.

Like Daniel Craig with James Bond. It took like $200 million to get him back, but they got him back.
I think the core problem that makes certain people "tired" of these superhero films is the physical aspect. Being that jacked and ready to shoot year round has to take its toll on their bodies. Tony Stak not withstanding. And as you get older, it gets harder and harder to maintain that body.

I think the bigger question than "who are they going to kill" is how do they finish out story arcs. Killing people, as much as the bloodthirsty people seem to enjoy the idea of it, doesn't actually make for good storytelling. Are the people whose favorite character is Cap going to be happy if you KILL Cap? What about the kids in the audience? Are you going to traumatize them? What about the toy sales?

I think the best story option to end Caps journey is to have some effect that takes the Super Soldier out of him. He goes off to live a normal life with Sharon Carter as his scrawny old self, or something. Killing him makes his life story pretty crappy. He basically became a super soldier and was beaten up and betrayed until he died, never getting to enjoy being happy.

As for Making time for every character, I think they would be smart to remember that it's an Avengers film and that they need to stick to the core Avengers. I don't think anyone will care if we only see a bit of Ant Man. His own movie is right around the corner.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:41 PM   #28
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Killing people, as much as the bloodthirsty people seem to enjoy the idea of it, doesn't actually make for good storytelling.
Death is an absolutely integral element of storytelling, and has been since time immemorial. Your unfamiliarity with this speaks to your lack of experience with literature and art of any substance.
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Death is an absolutely integral element of storytelling, and has been since time immemorial. Your unfamiliarity with this speaks to your lack of experience with literature and art of any substance.
I know right, it's like he never read A Song of Ice and Fire.
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Death is an absolutely integral element of storytelling, and has been since time immemorial. Your unfamiliarity with this speaks to your lack of experience with literature and art of any substance.
Death, sure. Weíve already seen lots of death in the Marvel films. Dozens of characters have died. But YOU are talking about the death of major characters who people like and follow. That doesnít sit well with audiences. ESPECIALLY not with children. It doesnít sit well with adult audiences either, which is why characters come back from the dead like itís a revolving door in comics and television.
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And technically Jackman Logan movie takes place in some near future, so we could certainly roll back the clock a bit and do a story about young Wolverine.

I just want knoy we aren’t getting Jonny Blaze in this one. Bring back the Duffer Brs Gjpst Ryder era.
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:11 AM   #33
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That doesn’t sit well with audiences.
LOL. Memorable literature and art involves death. Shakespeare and literary history prove you wrong.

And you've already shown exactly how Hollywood deals with 'death.' Just 'bring them back from the dead,' lol...or more often, just don't kill anyone of consequence. Because your art is forgettable shit.

If Marvel doesn't kill any major characters off in this, I'll completely understand because they're going for a forgettable cotton candy POS that pulls in an armored truck worth of cash. If they want something that's a bit more memorable, and if they want to set up a new set of actors for several of these major parts, they'll take the leap.

I expect a fun, forgettable film where nobody of consequence dies and I never need to see it again. LOL.
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When contracts are up and some of the actors are looking to move away from the films; Disney is looking for fresh/cheaper talent, a film like this is the best time to kill them off since all the films are connected at this point.
Yup. And since Disney acquired the full roster of Fox's Marvel films they have an obvious path for a soft reboot where both universes are merged into one. New Avengers meet New X-Men. It's something fans have been dreaming about for years. We won't see the fruits of that until the mid 2020s, but Disney is thinking of the long game.
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We pretty much go to see every one of these Marvel movies now and they seldom disappoint. You can nit-pick them after you leave the theater, but they are always entertaining.

I have no doubt this one will be the same. I’m dying for the Spider-Man & Doctor Strange scenes.

Though I do have to kinda laugh, because Doctor Strange took on an extra-dimensional God in his solo movie, I would think Thanos would be a piece of cake after that and he could take him out solo without the rest of the Avengers & Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Makes you wonder who will ultimately be the hero. I'm pretty sure they won't morph, Power-Ranger style, into some singular entity that defeats him, so...who gets to deliver the winning blow(s)?
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LOL. Memorable literature and art involves death. Shakespeare and literary history prove you wrong.

And you've already shown exactly how Hollywood deals with 'death.' Just 'bring them back from the dead,' lol...or more often, just don't kill anyone of consequence. Because your art is forgettable shit.

If Marvel doesn't kill any major characters off in this, I'll completely understand because they're going for a forgettable cotton candy POS that pulls in an armored truck worth of cash. If they want something that's a bit more memorable, and if they want to set up a new set of actors for several of these major parts, they'll take the leap.

I expect a fun, forgettable film where nobody of consequence dies and I never need to see it again. LOL.
I think what he's trying to say is that killing off some of the major characters just for the sake of killing them and increasing dramatic tension wouldn't provide satisfying conclusions to their stories.

Death is integral to good storytelling...but, so is the manner in which is occurs and how it acts as part of a story.

It would suck to see Thanos just snap Cap's neck, especially after everything he's been through. It would be an unsatisfying conclusion to the story of Steve Rogers.
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...satisfying conclusions to their stories.
Well, there is a large part of the problem with Hollywood and why most of these Marvel movies will be forgotten; they are unwilling to conclude stories with any kind of finality, particularly in comic adaptations. It's always 'on to another battle where nobody of significance will suffer any real consequences.'

Then there's Macbeth or Hamlet...where death is widespread and we remember the stories four centuries later and continue to recreate them.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be going to see it as I do all the Marvel films. I'll even enjoy it a ton. I'll just forget about it almost immediately thereafter and it will blur together with all the forgettable films they've made.

Too bad really, but it work$ for them $wimmingly!
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Does it really matter adam warlock just brings them all back again anyway.
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Makes you wonder who will ultimately be the hero. I'm pretty sure they won't morph, Power-Ranger style, into some singular entity that defeats him, so...who gets to deliver the winning blow(s)?
Gamora. Notice the flashback to when she was a child in the trailer.
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