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Old 01-06-2017, 05:35 PM   #121
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Sadly, Alt-Right is mostly a conservative smoke screen for people who are pretty much white supremacists. I'm as conservative as the next guy, but you don't have to read through too many posts from people who claim to be Alt Right before you usually hit something shockingly racist.
Honestly it seems like a progressive buzz word with not much behind it. Of course to them anyone even slightly right of center is "alt right" to begin with really.
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I listen to Stefan Molyneux once in a while and I believe he is considered part of the emerging alt-right. And I would not consider him racist in the least. He's described the alt-right as the right leaning people who are not using traditional media and channels of power to get their message heard.
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We could 'compare' the alt right and racists...we could even use a Venn diagram to do it, observing where there is overlap and where there is not...then we could deny we're comparing them, because of blahblahblahblahnonsenseprogressivism...and what a time we'd have!

I don't give a crap what percentage of the alt whoever is whatever this or whatever that any more than I give a rat's ass about the racist safe-space morons infesting our universities (and a few on this website); they're consuming themselves in a circle jerk of doom and I'm content to let them Donner Party their way to their own end. All I know is that I can expect four to eight wonderful years of the federal government keeping its damn hands off of my right to self defense, it's hands out of my wallet to pay for others' baby killing, and generally to gtfo of my way and my life. That's a helluva deal over Hillary and her posse of progs who want to decide for others how many dicks girls have to get used to being exposed to in locker rooms because biological (chromosomal) science is hard for liberals.

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Don't worry Jaz, I got the point even if others want to argue semantics The unfortunate part is the SJW madness, unlike the hippy movement, has spread the infection far and wide.

The hippy movement was limited to young folks and some older people but generally the generation before them were still holding steady. The hippies were trying to force change from the bottom UP. And they ran into authority and common sense like a brick wall.

The strategy is different. They didn't come to any realization and grow out of it. They bided their time. The SJWs of today are the disciples of the Hippies of yesteryear and now they have the power to push change from the top DOWN.

Those mentors have spent 50 years changing that wall of common sense into nurf-like bricks so their proteges don't have the same problems they did blocking them from enacting crazy ass rules and changing society for the worse with their immature and poorly thought out ideas implemented with all the foresight and deliberation as a toddler trying to stack up the blocks for a game of Jenga.

Much like Frankenstein, I don't think they realize the monster they've unleashed and, frankly, I don't think they care too much. To them the chaos and sticking it to "the man" is worth it because it, like, totally can't get any worse than if the suits are in control, right man?!

As for the alt-right? I guess I consider myself alt-right if being alt-right means:
  • Being an American Constitutionalist
  • Being tired of being told that, by virtue of being a white male I'm the source of all the evil and oppression in the world.
    Therefore I must automatically treat others with reverence due to a crime I am likely to have or will unknowingly commit against them or, if I didn't commit the crime there is no doubt someone in my ancestral lineage committed a crime against someone in THEIR lineage for which I owe reparations or at the very least some level of servitude
  • That I should be grateful for the opportunity to divert from my own time and money to anyone or any cause to as a balm for the guilt I should feel for busting my ass and hitting the glorious heights of the middle class; god forbid I shoot for a higher tax bracket!
  • I consider it a double standard if my God is fair game for scorn and revulsion and HOW DARE I take offense to desecration, but if I whisper anything negative about say, Islam (because they get all sensitive and shooty and beheady if you do) I'm a bigot and a racist
  • Over the last year I resented NRA or Trump backers were fair game for abuse (and to approving mobs no less, even getting kudos from people in power!) while no other demographic had any such fear

Yeah, if those things make me alt-right I guess I'm alt-right.

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Old 01-07-2017, 05:55 AM   #125
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Don't worry Jaz, I got the point even if others want to argue semantics The unfortunate part is the SJW madness, unlike the hippy movement, has spread the infection far and wide.

The hippy movement was limited to young folks and some older people but generally the generation before them were still holding steady. The hippies were trying to force change from the bottom UP. And they ran into authority and common sense like a brick wall.

The strategy is different. They didn't come to any realization and grow out of it. They bided their time. The SJWs of today are the disciples of the Hippies of yesteryear and now they have the power to push change from the top DOWN.

Those mentors have spent 50 years changing that wall of common sense into nurf-like bricks so their proteges don't have the same problems they did blocking them from enacting crazy ass rules and changing society for the worse with their immature and poorly thought out ideas implemented with all the foresight and deliberation as a toddler trying to stack up the blocks for a game of Jenga.

Much like Frankenstein, I don't think they realize the monster they've unleashed and, frankly, I don't think they care too much. To them the chaos and sticking it to "the man" is worth it because it, like, totally can't get any worse than if the suits are in control, right man?!

As for the alt-right? I guess I consider myself alt-right if being alt-right means:
  • Being an American Constitutionalist
  • Being tired of being told that, by virtue of being a white male I'm the source of all the evil and oppression in the world.
    Therefore I must automatically treat others with reverence due to a crime I am likely to have or will unknowingly commit against them or, if I didn't commit the crime there is no doubt someone in my ancestral lineage committed a crime against someone in THEIR lineage for which I owe reparations or at the very least some level of servitude
  • That I should be grateful for the opportunity to divert from my own time and money to anyone or any cause to as a balm for the guilt I should feel for busting my ass and hitting the glorious heights of the middle class; god forbid I shoot for a higher tax bracket!
  • I consider it a double standard if my God is fair game for scorn and revulsion and HOW DARE I take offense to desecration, but if I whisper anything negative about say, Islam (because they get all sensitive and shooty and beheady if you do) I'm a bigot and a racist
  • Over the last year I resented NRA or Trump backers were fair game for abuse (and to approving mobs no less, even getting kudos from people in power!) while no other demographic had any such fear

Yeah, if those things make me alt-right I guess I'm alt-right.
Serious question, how is any of that list considered anything but common sense to begin with? Do we need alternative terms for common sense since those two words alone likely make special snowflakes like Jazzy run for their precious safe space?
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Old 01-07-2017, 07:31 AM   #126
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Sadly, Alt-Right is mostly a conservative smoke screen for people who are pretty much white supremacists. I'm as conservative as the next guy, but you don't have to read through too many posts from people who claim to be Alt Right before you usually hit something shockingly racist.
Well, how would you like it if your country that was 90% your own people 50 years ago was now 62% your own people and you were set to be the minority in 40 years. And they still scream your a racist country and pick apart our culture and beliefs.

Pick any country and any race in the world. You introduce those types of scenarios you are going to get conflict. And how in the hell can you call that racism? It makes zero sense.

The racist card is such a chicken shit way out of dealing with things. This will have to be dealt with at some point. Diversity + proximity = conflict. History has proven this over and over all over the world.

I know its the current year and all this country is in for a hell of ride in the next 25 years if the immigration numbers aren't reversed in a big way.

As for the racist trash talk online. People are just embracing being called a racist. I don't see the problem. That's the lefts doing.
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Honestly it seems like a progressive buzz word with not much behind it. Of course to them anyone even slightly right of center is "alt right" to begin with really.

This is the lefts tactics. They herd you into a corner where the only option you have is to accept Hitler into your heart and do goose steps in your spare time.

The Alt Right (top dogs) watches many of the Alt Lite E-celebs (Milo, Cernovich)... and so far has a good track record of calling when they are going to go full alt right.

There was recently a guy that worked at Buzzfeed who had over 100k twitter followers recently come out as alt right. Even Ann coulter is dog whistling hard core and trolling the libs when they call her out.

I really do feel bad for some people that will be left out of this. But Whites here and in Europe need a country and culture to. And they are all currently being run over while theirs stay in tact.

I honestly see this is becoming the norm of the next couple years, unless there is a fabricated war to stop the worldwide rise of nationalism. And im always right. Other than the WiiU outselling the Xbone.
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:13 AM   #128
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Don't worry Jaz, I got the point even if others want to argue semantics
I got it too, vallor, but the idiot went on a nonsensical rampage of verbal diarrhea denying he was comparing the two groups when he was COMPARING them in an ANALOGY (that's what an analogy is, for Pete's sake), then he goes off on my 'Ben' diagram visual depiction like a two-year-old in a Lego shop breaking the prebuilt figures on display. Make some sense, Jaz. Good grief. You want to compare something to something else? Own it and move along.

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Progressives have been racist, identity-driven fascists for decades (growing in degree since the 60s), and they're not going to stop. The difference now is that a critical mass of whites have finally realized 'why the hell should I be embarrassed to be white or to talk about my legitimate social and economic concerns as a white person when the Dems have been driving this shit throughout society for every single other demographic group under the sun?' The other difference is that the racial detente of the past few decades has been ended by progressives because it's no longer actual acts of racism that get you targeted, it's ideas they don't like, restaurants they don't like, words they can't stand, and your very genetic make-up (whites are inherently racist, society is structurally racist). Folks have finally figured out that they're targeted purely BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE not for any legitimate racially motivated or hateful actions. If, as progressives increasingly say, whites are racist 'just because they're white' and society is racist just because 'society is racist' then expect conservative, traditional folks to fight back. Hard. You racist SOB progressives.

The Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about the concerns of middle-class to lower-class, rural American whites. Fact. They lost the election because of it (PA, WI, MI, OH, IA, etc.). If Trump, who actually spoke to those folks, can move the Republican Party further in the direction of those folks (win better trade deals, improve the economic fundamentals of their regions), he will win again in 2020. Can he do it? I don't know. I'm excited to see the attempt, however. The system has been set up to enrich the powerful and wealthy for too long. Time to rebalance it toward the little guy and gal. Here we go!

Also, progressives act as if 'demographics is eternal destiny' but that's a load of shitburger nonsense. Electoral coalitions are not eternal. Just look at the way the Democrat Party went from racist resistance of blacks to racist pandering to blacks from the 60s to today. Blacks went from Republican voting in the early century, to split in the middle century, to totally Dem now.

Coalitions change. Relying upon an eternal coalition based upon genetic and ancestral lineage is ideologically stupid on their part. In fact, if Trump is successful in pushing Republicans toward a more nationalist stance, more minorities will realize that is where their interests reside. As we move forward to a more automated world (self-driving cars, etc.), blue collar jobs may actually become a national security issue of precious significance due to their relative scarcity, causing trade AND immigration to become much greater factors to minorities due to its costs on their bottom line economic circumstances. That's already happening on trade. Economic and labor stats are worse for average folks in areas with higher volumes of trade with China...and those areas voted for Trump. Next is the realization that immigrants are taking blue collar jobs.

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As for the alt-right? I guess I consider myself alt-right if being alt-right means:
  • Being an American Constitutionalist
  • Being tired of being told that, by virtue of being a white male I'm the source of all the evil and oppression in the world.
    Therefore I must automatically treat others with reverence due to a crime I am likely to have or will unknowingly commit against them or, if I didn't commit the crime there is no doubt someone in my ancestral lineage committed a crime against someone in THEIR lineage for which I owe reparations or at the very least some level of servitude
  • That I should be grateful for the opportunity to divert from my own time and money to anyone or any cause to as a balm for the guilt I should feel for busting my ass and hitting the glorious heights of the middle class; god forbid I shoot for a higher tax bracket!
  • I consider it a double standard if my God is fair game for scorn and revulsion and HOW DARE I take offense to desecration, but if I whisper anything negative about say, Islam (because they get all sensitive and shooty and beheady if you do) I'm a bigot and a racist
  • Over the last year I resented NRA or Trump backers were fair game for abuse (and to approving mobs no less, even getting kudos from people in power!) while no other demographic had any such fear

Yeah, if those things make me alt-right I guess I'm alt-right.
If that's the definition, it's a good fit for me, too. And you know what a progressive racialist will think when they read my post: What names can we call him to destroy his post? How can we 'ignore' his ideas? Can we get him banned?

LOL. Thanks Obama!
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LOL@progressives doing EXACTLY as you predict they will! As I said:

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And you know what a progressive racialist will think when they read my post: What names can we call him to destroy his post? How can we 'ignore' his ideas? Can we get him banned?
'Give me my saaaaaafe space' cried the special snowflakes!

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You don't see anything hilarious about your reply? I'm asking you seriously. You really don't see it? I mean, the shit you think and write is pretty funny, but if you don't even see it, man, that just makes it so much sweeter.
What did you ask? You didn't ask a question, you did the usual progressive tactic of playing up the race card. Fact of the matter is no one is buying that shit anymore Whimbrel, after 8 years of it non stop the majority of America is sick of your shit.
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I'm implying that you are a paranoid moron, but I'm pretty sure that isn't a race. Unless, do you have a lot of kids by any chance? Aside from that, what race card could you possibly be talking about?

And, since you could not understand before, let me try it a little easier for you, Do you see why your previous response is hilarious? That's a pretty straightforward question, so I think you shouldn't have the comprehension problems this time. Fingers crossed....
No I don't and I'm far from paranoid in the slightest. If you can honestly say with a straight face that Obama has been anything other than a shittastic president you're a flat out dishonest person. And really it isn't like the far left is hiding anything they'd like to do to the US, it's all right there in the open, From UN forces integrated into US police forces (happening now) To this administration being about as ungracious as you can be and Obama going out of his way to make things more difficult for Trump coming in.

Now if you can honestly prove any of the things actually being put forth by those on the left aren't true, when there's documented proof from mainstream news sources stating as such come talk to me, until then take your race card bullshit, turn it sideways and shove it.
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If you can honestly say with a straight face that Obama has been anything other than a shittastic president you're a flat out dishonest person.
Same Stein, senior politics editor at HuffPo: Obama destroyed the Democrats across the board.

He's been a terrible president for his party. For that, I'm so grateful. Thanks, Obama!
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Same Stein, senior politics editor at HuffPo: Obama destroyed the Democrats across the board.

He's been a terrible president for his party. For that, I'm so grateful. Thanks, Obama!
Now that their golden muslim is out they're of course going to try and pander to conservatives, and more so Trump himself. Thanks Obama indeed, for pushing such radical far left policies that the average US citizen finally woke up across the board and rejected the left in all branches of government.
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Yeah, the left is in a full retreat.

Now is not the time to apologize. The left NEVER EVER does this, its how they retained power for so long. Good Christians are supposed to be understanding and loving, and if you do church on sunday or not, if your a white dude in america..90% chance your a christian..Take a trip to neog@f for proof. Fucking white knights larping as feminist while mocking god. They are Christians and don't even realize it. James Alefanits. Not a Christian.

This christian altruism has been exploited very effectively by the left. But the normie right wing has caught on or has had enough. That's why we have President 8 Chan about to enter the white house.

Not everyone that leans right has to convert to full blown shitlord, sporting anime avatars on twitter and posting pics of Bernie Sander in a gas chamber. But its very important not to punch right, or don't critique your allies if they hold more radical views than you . This is left is very good about not punching left.

Oh, Obama is buddies with communist Bill Aryes? Eh, its fine.

Now ask me why i should give a shit that Trump kept Hitler speeches under his bed? I sure as hell hope he did. If we are going to beat the left we will have to use their tactics against this. This moral christfag karma bullshit is going to get us all gualged.

Identify the left for what it is. It runs the media, runs the banks, runs our education system, its matriarchal in nature and it wants us and our traditional family dead. After this election im convinced enough of them want us dead to warrant action.
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This is why you will fail. You can't use their tactics against them. Fire does not put out fire. This is pure reaction; you'll fail because of lack of principle and theory.
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That fire analogy really doesn't work. If you expect a boxing match and you're opponent brings a knife or a gun, you're simply not having a fair fight. If you arm yourself, it doesn't mean that nobody wins. It also doesn't mean you abandon your principles. It just means the fight becomes fair. What you do in the fight after that is your choice.
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You can't use their tactics against them.
Sure you can. It's hilarious to do it and watch their snowflake-melting reactions. In addition, it works! That's why they've been doing it for so long.

They've far overplayed their position. They moved to demonizing and demagoguing entire swaths of people in their identitarian racist political and social posturing, and in the process they've emasculated their ability to enforce their will through the state, limiting themselves to coastal and urban enclaves which I for one am more than happy to cede to their destruction (see: Detroit).

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