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Old 07-24-2017, 09:21 AM   #1
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Valerian Bombs on the Weekend Boxoffice Chart


It's victory for Dunkirk and Girls Trip at the box office this weekend. Both original and well-reviewed films smashed expectations and enticed diverse audiences to the theaters, even though cumulatively summer remains down 10% from last year.

Here is the Weekend Boxoffice Chart for the weekend of July 21st to July 23rd, 2017.
  1. Dunkirk $50.5/$50.5
  2. Girls Trip $30.3/$30.3
  3. Spider-Man: Homecoming $22.0/$251.7
  4. War for the Planet of the Apes $20.4/$97.7
  5. Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets $17.0/$17.0
  6. Despicable Me 3 $12.7/$213.3
  7. Baby Driver $6.0/$84.2
  8. The Big Sick $5.0/$24.5
  9. Wonder Woman $4.6/$389.0
  10. Wish Upon $2.4/$10.5
  11. Cars 3 $1.9/$144.0
  12. Transformers: The Last Knight $1.1/$127.5

Valerian opened below Spider-Man and War for the Planet of the Apes, both returning after multiple weeks. Ouch.
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Old 07-24-2017, 09:40 AM   #2
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The trailer for Valerian spells out a movie full of CGI and 0 story/chars so ... I guess we are learning no?
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:39 AM   #3
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I watched Dunkirk on Saturday and Valerian on Sunday.

I liked both - that being said ....

Dunkirk was good and without spoilers - this was not a documentary, but a story(s) being woven. I guess the only big issue is that it didnt have alot of urgency, especially with the nature of the evacuations or the sacrifices the French did to hold off the Germans until they could get all the guys off the beach. The middle part and struggle started to build that and I think more of the actual evacuations would have made it abit deeper for me. But I really enjoyed it. With the flight mask on Tom Hardy the whole time I didnt know it was him but at the end when he took it off it keeps reminding me why I like him so much as an actor.

Valerian was decent, mostly worth the money for me, but barely. I think the biggest problem is that it strayed abit too far from the source material. Laureline is not someone in the future, she's a displaced peasant girl from the medieval times and is on this grand adventure with Valerian. With that premise the chemistry was just not there between the two of them. I liked Cara Delevingne well enough and I think she played the foil that Laureline can be for Valerian well enough, but Dane DeHaan didnt really work for me as Valerian. It wasnt until the really the end that he started to show that he might be able to fit into the role, but just the interplay and the talking between the two of the, the chemistry as I said before just wasnt there. Visually it was pretty, I like Luc Besson's pacing and how he does as a filmmaker, others may hate it but I enjoy it. Story was decent but nothing to write home about. I think that if they would have been able to maybe get a different Valerian or different leads that had a greater impact and chemistry - or if Luc Besson had let someone maybe help write those portions it would have done better for me.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:08 AM   #4
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The trailer for Valerian spells out a movie full of CGI and 0 story/chars so ... I guess we are learning no?
People complain about trailers giving away too much...but all of the marketing for Valerian didn't really give away anything; I'm not familiar with the property at all and I learned absolutely nothing from any of it.

It looked like they were banking almost entirely upon the fact that Luc Besson was directing it. "Hey, 'member The Fifth Element? It was awesome, right?"
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:27 AM   #5
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My Valerian review from a previous thread:

NOTE: I know nothing about the lore of the comic, I'm coming it to the movie fresh looking at it as a straight up sci-fi movie. If there is backstory about Lauraline they certainly don't explain any of it.

Just got back from Valerian. Do yourself a favor and save your money for a cheap show.

The visuals are worthy of a big screen. Amazing visuals but there is no chemistry between the characters. It's the fact the male lead, Dane DeHaan, is NOT worthy of the title character. He doesn't exude any charisma much less the arrogance necessary to play someone who would ever be the person who could accomplish the feats of daring, much less the sexual exploits claimed in the course of the movie.

Because of his anemic physicality, and his shitty acting not allowing for the character to show much personality, intellectual horsepower, or wit it is difficult to suspend your disbelief to think of this very beta male would actually be successfully as the highest tier agent of the galactic society of earth or the wooing a female of Laureline's caliber. He looks like kid who got stuffed into the locker in high school.

Of course the female lead, Cara Delevingne, while incredibly good looking only does slightly better in the acting department but I I think much of this can be blamed on the absolute cringe worthy dialog and the fact most of her onscreen time was spent talking with a guy who looks like 15 year old dork trying to play at being Buck Rogers.

Clive Owen was showing up because he needed beer money or something. The acting from the support staff was sooo much better than any of the leads. Surprisingly enough Rihanna's part was one of the highlights though with the same uneven acting poor acting.

Yuck yuck and yuck but PRETTY!

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Old 07-24-2017, 11:51 AM   #6
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Much rather see Valerian just for FX than another boring WW2 story. Being from that director I thought maybe there might be some alien or other phenomena happening the way they all kept looking at the sky in the trailers. Nope. Yawn.
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I was hoping against hope that a Cthulu monster would rise from the sea and eat all the Nazis or something.... nope nope nope.
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Nazis.... down with Dagon in the ocean deep. Nope... I can write a better script just on that plot point. LOL
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Nazis.... down with Dagon in the ocean deep. Nope... I can write a better script just on that plot point. LOL
Considering it was based on the historical battle of Dunkirk, I don't think there would be much room for Dagon, Cthulhu or any of the Old Ones.

I'm not saying I wouldn't watch something like you're describing, but it wouldn't really work with a historical drama.
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Considering it was based on the historical battle of Dunkirk, I don't think there would be much room for Dagon, Cthulhu or any of the Old Ones.

I'm not saying I wouldn't watch something like you're describing, but it wouldn't really work with a historical drama.
like "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" maybe?
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:36 PM   #11
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Valerian was awesome, one of the issues was that Dunkirk opened the same weekend and it was hogging all of the IMAX screens in my area. So, I saw Valerian but I didn't get to see it on the big IMAX screen. So, most people will see whatever is playing in the IMAX over what isn't.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:42 PM   #12
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I thought Valerian was awful. It was really pretty, but it's not like Star Wars or The Matrix where if the movie's narrative is bad there are some cool scenes enhanced by the special effects that partially save it. It was absolutely nothing, the story didn't really go anywhere interesting or evoke any emotion from me. It is far cry from another Fifth Element or The Professional.

The main characters had no real backstory or arc, their main narrative was this completely forced love story. Both of them were horribly miscast, and had no chemistry. Cara Delevingne is just unappealing, and while I like Dane DeHaan, he just isn't the dashing, Han Solo type that the character was obviously supposed to be.

I knew this movie was in trouble, as at my local theater it is always impossible to get reserved seats for the big opening blockbusters, but the seating chart was about half empty for this movie last Friday. I gave it a chance, but the people who passed on this missed nothing of value.
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Funny thinking that running two total unknowns that look like brother and sister 30 seconds away from shooting a sweaty porn scene for $100 in a Sci-Fi CGI fest would not bring out the family crowds...
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