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Old 03-11-2019, 12:03 PM   #21
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:16 PM   #22
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This movie didn't make anywhere near 455 Million. The theaters were empty.
Anecdotally, all of the Thursday showings in my area were pretty much sold out.

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This one is more of a catch it on a streaming site at 360p, then turn it off after 5 mins.
Have you actually seen it?

If someone is a fan of these movies and the series, it's worth catching in theaters simply for the typical MCU spectacle; if you've enjoyed the other 20 movies in the series, you'll probably find something to like in this one. If you're not a fan or didn't enjoy the other 20 movies in the series...then, it's safe to say it should be considered a hard pass for someone of that mindset.

Personally, it was a decent entry in the MCU series; it wasn't amazing, but it wasn't terrible. Overall, it was a fun movie that had absolutely none of the "SJW Narrative" so many were afraid it was going to have. In fact, you could replace Brie Larson with a male actor...and it would have changed very little. In that regard, it reminded me of how all of the characters in Alien were initially written solely as last names, with the intent being that any role could be played by either a male or female actor without actually affecting anything. The fact that Captain Marvel is a woman had very little to do with the overall narrative, at the end of the day.

Ultimately, it's another origin story. It gets some bonus points for not handing the main character a villain who is just an "evil" version of the main character, but it suffers from the same sort of crap all of the other MCU origin stories have suffered from. It ain't terrible, but the inevitable sequel will probably be that much better.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:39 PM   #23
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Have you actually seen it?
I thought the same after reading the post.

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Old 03-11-2019, 01:09 PM   #24
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Overall, it was a fun movie that had absolutely none of the "SJW Narrative" so many were afraid it was going to have.
I disagree, it's full of their themes. just a bit less aggressive / a bit more subtle about it. And these themes and narratives just don't do anything for me. Their particular struggles with Identity are just completely uninteresting to me.
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In fact, you could replace Brie Larson with a male actor...and it would have changed very little.
I actually think this in itself already is a big part of what makes these themes, and most of all what makes them so bland, boring, meaningless and disconnect. You may as well replace them with a robot. or with just a spectacle of effects. And that's pretty much how it played out...


I really miss the days of intelligent and meaningful writing in such shows, I mean especially from liberal writers. One of my favourite shows of all times is Deep Space 9, which has some of the best writing ever of any show. It's wholly amazing. Every character is. You find plenty of various themes in there, but they just were so much smarter and interesting about everything, and gave every character so much dignity and depth, even when they had fun with them. I so miss that era. I feel so spoiled from this quality, that it's hard to find much enjoyment in these new sci-fi / super hero shows
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I disagree, it's full of their themes. just a bit less aggressive / a bit more subtle about it. And these themes and narratives just don't do anything for me. Their particular struggles with Identity are just completely uninteresting to me.
I think "I'm Just a Girl" blaring out of the speakers during a key fight sequence is about as subtle as getting run over by Locomotive being run by a bunch of Womyn with "I AM FEMINIST HEAR ME ROAR" tattoo'd all over their bodies.

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Agree. I agree enough I don't even mind you spelled "favorite" wrong.

DS 9 was excellent from virtually every perspective starting with the amazing Dennis McCarthy intro score (probably the best of all the Trek themes) to the characters, to the interwoven local and regional politics. Except one thing. They didn't actually "Trek" anywhere for several seasons. Star Trek needs to Trek!

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I loved DS9... but character development, such as G'Kar's story in B5, was simply epic. This intro still has an emotional effect on me even today as I know what happened next. If I were given two weeks left to live I'd watch Babylon 5 again and die happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxdLult6YKU


I have no issues with women blaring on about the fact that they can be strong. They can and will be. We, as men, can take it without crying (too much).
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:54 PM   #27
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I loved DS9... but character development, such as G'Kar's story in B5, was simply epic.
To my never ending shame I never managed to watch much B5. I need to find a streaming service that has that show. Or maybe just suck it up and buy the series from Amazon.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:04 PM   #28
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Be prepared. Get the films and watch them in the correct order, with the series. Series 1 is a bit different than the others so it really starts with Season 2.

Shame that it didn't continue, other than Crusade (Which was a bit odd but had to be watched). Additionally grab the books after watching everything for further answers.
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Old 03-11-2019, 04:10 PM   #29
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Be prepared. Get the films and watch them in the correct order, with the series. Series 1 is a bit different than the others so it really starts with Season 2.

Shame that it didn't continue, other than Crusade (Which was a bit odd but had to be watched). Additionally grab the books after watching everything for further answers.
Or save yourself some money and sit out on your front porch, play video games, watch youtube vids or surf EA.

How old are you anyway? What in the fuck are you even doing?
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To my never ending shame I never managed to watch much B5. I need to find a streaming service that has that show. Or maybe just suck it up and buy the series from Amazon.
It's included on Amazon with Prime. I already own all of the box sets, though. Seasons 1-4 were the best and consist of the entire main story arc. Season 5 is a throw-away. The series looked like it was going to get cancelled at the end of season 4 so the creator wrapped up all of the story-lines. Then they got the green light for season 5 so they had to come up with extra stuff. I'm a huge Trek fan, but even I admit B5 was a much better show than Star Trek TNG or DS9. The show previews showed it. They were basically like this:

Tonight on Babylon 5, Minbari operatives kidnap the captain and threaten to reveal a secret that could plunge the galaxy into war. And then on Star Trek the Next Generation, Troy and Warf fall in love.

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Series 1 is a bit different than the others so it really starts with Season 2.
Season 1 is my favorite, probably due to the mystery of everything at the time. I got hooked with Episode 2 (Soul Hunter) when I saw the Star Furys. Unlike Star Trek where ships glided like airplanes, they actually used maneuvering thrusters and how they launched was absolutely fantastic.
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I have four daughters. I want them to do just about whatever they want to do in life (let's not deal dope or such nonsense and all will be fine). You know what I don't want them to do? Be gigantic assholes in pronouncing to the entire world that they're "doing what they want in life and look at meeeeeeeee do what I waaaaaaaaant as a wooooooomaaaaaan!"

You can be free and not be a douchenozzle dick about it, lol.

Modern feminists are assholes, and they're not really free, because women who choose things feminists disapprove of get shit from femishits.

Congratulations Brie woodface Larson, lol. You did it. You took a giant leap for womankind.
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I think "I'm Just a Girl" blaring out of the speakers during a key fight sequence is about as subtle as getting run over by Locomotive being run by a bunch of Womyn with "I AM FEMINIST HEAR ME ROAR" tattoo'd all over their bodies.
Compared to what else we had to put up with recently... but yes, it's still just embarrassing.

haha, I remember the flame wars among sci-fi nerds back in the day, about what's better DeepSpace9 or Babylon5. Personally I never really liked Babylon5. I must have rewatched DS9 over a dozen times. I barely made it through Babylon5 once. It just didn't do much for me besides the stiff and hammy acting.

That's not to say there is nothing in it, if you have the patience to go through all the pathos, platitudes and stiff ham, I guess.

For example, I am still amused by that scene:


It's good, but it just doesn't hold a candle to a thousand other scenes I liked even better in DS9.



DS9 is just on another level, no contest.

But seeing how bleak our situation is now, maybe it's worth a shot, I don't know. I also thought Voyager was rather weak after coming from DeepSpace9. But considering the low standards we have today, Voyager looks almost brilliant now...

Another show I just remembered that I liked a lot more was Space: Above and Beyond, or Space:2063, whatever it's called. I recommend you give that one a try.



The strong character women of that era had no need to blare about anything. They had dignity and grace. It wasn't about "showing those boys who's boss".
It was about how difficult situations can bring out a special strength in women, something far more interesting than the ability to beat up tough guys in hand-to-hand combat.
A strength rooted in love for their husbands and sons, like they have always loved them, throughout all history. There are really deep themes in that. This wasn't about competition. It wasn't the one dimensional "Kick ass Grrrl" that gotta prove whatever today.
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Space Above and Beyond was awesome. It was so ahead of its time that current scifi shows are only beginning to catch up.
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This movie didn't make anywhere near 455 Million. The theaters were empty.
That is worldwide box office. What you have to remember is that Disney splits that box office take with the theaters with 52.5% going to the theater in the USA and MORE outside the USA.

And these movies usually have a production budget of $150 million with as much as $150 million more going to advertising (it sounds crazy, but they actually can spend more on ads than on making the movie).

So, $455 million is a great start, but it doesn't even get them to the break-even point.

I'm not saying the movie will lose money, because it will probably do close to $800 million worldwide (unless it crashes and burns now that word is out that it isn't that great of a film), just saying the same thing I said above a couple of times... it isn't the huge record-breaking blockbuster that the liberal media would have you believe.

They can push girl power all the want, the movie is only doing average for a Marvel film.
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I really liked Space Above and Beyond. I don't think it was given a fair shake.

Farscape got a little too far off the rails too fast. In my sleep you may hear me whisper how much I liked Andromeda but I'll deny it during my waking hours.

Stargate Universe was Stargate's version of DS:9. I liked Stargate and even Atlantis, but Universe wasn't as afraid to sometimes show how crappy people could be to one another. The last few episodes of that series were some of the best few final episodes of a series I've seen.

Also introduced me to Mumford and Sons with one of the best song selections ever.

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I always liked Space Above & Beyond, but I always found the concept that the pilots would get out of their fighter craft and fight close quarters battles on the ground to be a little silly.
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Leave it to Chimp to downplay the SJWism. Nope you're still not a lefty Chimpout, not at all.
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Speaking of good space shows, The Expanse rocks. Has anyone read the books on which it is based? Is it worth reading if you’ve seen all the seasons?
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Farscape got a little too far off the rails too fast.
You know what was even crazier? Lexx. What a bunch of non-sense. The writers must have been on drugs. I don't know why I liked this shit so much, but I did. Still better writing than most anything today. more entertaining than Babylon too.

I just saw it's up on youtube... so in case you missed that,.. here's the first episode.



I would also mention Firefly... yes, yes, I know... Whedon... but the show was pretty good anyway.

The Expanse is alright... there's some cool stuff in there, but as far as choice of themes and build of characters goes, I like it less than Firefly. I think in part it's because the writing in The Expanse feels a bit more geared... it's almost entirely lacking a whole dimension of attitude in its world view. It feels a bit too much like the fantasy of an Edgy Liberal Conspiracy theorist, which gives me difficulty to connect with. Somehow it feels surprisingly hollow, even though it's clearly meant to be deep...
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Leave it to Chimp to downplay the SJWism. Nope you're still not a lefty Chimpout, not at all.
There isn't a whole lot to downplay, in this case. You could have literally swapped out Brie Larson for, let's say, Chris Pine...and very little would have to be changed to make it work. The fact that Captain Marvel happened to be a woman didn't factor into the plot at all. There was no love interest. There wasn't a scene where she one-ups some guy specifically because he thinks he's automatically better due to the fact that she's female. The level of pandering people assumed would be present simply wasn't there. Sure, blaring "Just A Girl" is a little hamfisted in hindsight...but I chalked the presence of that song up to the fact that the movie was set in 1995 and No Doubt was extremely popular at the time.

In this case, the shit people were braying about wasn't really in the movie at all. The same can't really be said about the media surrounding the movie...but the film itself really isn't all that offensive on the SJW front. It could have easily been much, much worse.

One thing that irked me was how little Ronan had to do in the movie. The last time we saw him, he was wielding an Infinity Stone and was ready to destroy everything. This time around, he just stood in his spaceship and dropped some Space Bombs.
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