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Old 11-01-2016, 11:51 AM   #21
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NFL games? Fewer and fewer, and for what was my favorite sport, that's saying something. Lots of reasons:

* It's entertainment. Could you keep it entertaining, please? If you're going to shove bullshit talking points about gun control and whose lives matter while leading politicized protests, I'm going to find OTHER entertainment. I get enough of that shit elsewhere, no thank you.

* Flags. Flags everywhere. OMG, did you celebrate that touchdown? FLAGFLAGFLAGFLAGFLAG. Please, remove more fun from the game, NFL. DON'T HAVE FUN!

* Was it a catch? It wasn't a catch. But he caught it! Nope, not a catch. But it was a catch! Nope, see...it moved a millimeter.

* Is it time for a commercial? Well, they just kicked the ball, so....break for commercial! Is it time for a commercial? Well, they just called an official timeout, so...break for commercial! Who called a timeout? No, not one of the teams. The TV stations. For one of their million commercials during the game, interrupting the ten or eleven minutes of action you actually get in a three hour NFL game.

* Did you beat your wife? Oh, well...you're a good player. We'll keep you. Did you beat your wife? Oh, well...the video makes it too difficult to keep you, even though we planned to. Did you take a puff of a joint? SUSPENDED!

So, what NFL games am I watching? The answer is I'm watching less and less of this flag-laden, commercial-interrupted, politicized pile of formerly-fun but now not-so-much excrement.

Get off my lawn. I'm a blast at parties.
I agree with all of this and I was a huge fan of the NFL. I'd watch any game, no matter the teams, and enjoy it because the game is great. I just loved the way the sport was played. Now, I barely watch anymore. Here's why...
  • American broadcasts tend to ruin things just in their presentation at times. Most of us loved Madden and Summerall but lots of commentators started to try and imitate Madden's style and it just came off as artificial. Bill Maas was a huge offender of this for a while but others still do it. It's a sort of false masculinity where you have to refer to a good player as a "stud" or you have to call every power back a "downhill" or "north south" runner because it sounds like something a lumberjack might say. Every player who can string together two good games is referred to as GOAT. It all smacks of frat chatter in my view.
  • The NFL has chased the casual fan too much in a cash grab. I get this and I can't blame them. What business doesn't want to make more cash? But you have to be careful not to abandon your core fans. You can just look at the ads to see the difference. When I watched football with my old man 20 years ago, we always laughed at the ads because they were all for beer, trucks, and dog food. Now, the only ads that target guys are for ED pills. And of course, it's not just the ads. The broadcast itself is less geared toward men from beginning to end these days. And that's fine. Targeting women, kids, and casual fans in general sure paid off over the past few years in ad revenues, jersey sales, etc. The problem is that casual fans are fickle and will leave you at the drop of a hat because they were never really committed in the first place. If you abandon your core fans and the casual fans drift away, you're screwed.
  • It sometimes feels that flags are used to sort of control the pace of big games so things are kept relatively close. I never thought games were out and out fixed, but it sure feels that game momentum is controlled sometimes.
  • I hate how the NFL sells players. I was a big Favre fan and so I was kind of blind to how much the NFL sold me the Favre persona. I still like the guy and think he's probably the player I enjoyed watching most in my lifetime but if I had to hear the commentators put on a fake tough voice and tell me how "Favre is great because he's just having fun playing football!" one more time, I was going to barf. And when it came time for Favre to get ousted by the Packers, they turned him into a devil and all of the sudden, Aaron Rodgers was some sort of football god who was already the greatest QB of all time. I got tired of hearing how Chad Pennington (remember him?) was so smart or how Tom Brady is the new Lex Luthor. I hate how Cam Newton is a super hero until the Super Bowl and now he's just a super loser that we all have to hate. I hate how, whether he made a play or not, Clay Matthews is always on camera because he has a cool name and long hair. Just play the damn game and let me enjoy it without telling me who to hate and who to love.

I was a huge fan of the NBA when I was younger but they changed the sport over time so games seemed to always come down to the last few plays and they were always telling us who the next Jordan would be. It became less of a sport and more of a show and I got disgusted and stopped watching. I'm sad to say that the NFL really feels very similar to me now. And it's a huge shame because I love watching a good football game without all of the extraneous BS.

In the end, I sort of feel like a jerk, crapping all over a sport that most of you love but has apparently passed me by. I don't mean to do that. It just feels that the glory of the NFL is behind us. Maybe this current slide in ratings will bring the NFL back to what made it great in the first place. Until then, I'm watching hockey.
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:20 PM   #22
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Hockey is great. Very exciting, continuous action during game time. Fun sport.

I need to add another complaint to my list, lol. Brain injuries. It's real, it's serious, kids shouldn't play the sport at all, and I don't know how the NFL survives if kids don't play the sport to create future NFL players.
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:44 PM   #23
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I need to add another complaint to my list, lol. Brain injuries. It's real, it's serious, kids shouldn't play the sport at all, and I don't know how the NFL survives if kids don't play the sport to create future NFL players.
It's not just football though. Soccer and hockey have their share of concussions too. I guess baseball and basketball are safe but I'm not going back to the NBA. I've tried and it's as bad or maybe even worse now than it was when I first quit.
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True. However, soccer could eliminate probably 95% of them if it eliminated headers. Hockey has far fewer collisions and far fewer traumatic brain injury events statistically, and you don't read about large numbers of retired hockey players putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger due to CTE.

Football is several orders of magnitude worse, sadly. I still love the college game, but even that has lost its luster...partly because I no longer live in NY and my decades of attending Army games ended long ago. They're having a helluva season though...for them at least.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:36 PM   #25
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I'll just leave this here in case your favorite team isn't being broadcast in your area and you don't have Sunday Ticket (this is also how I keep up with real Football and, believe it or not, Cricket):

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Old 11-01-2016, 02:31 PM   #26
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One of the reasons why my interest in the NFL has waned over the past few years has been because of injuries and, most importantly, the inability of the league to mitigate them.

No matter what team you follow, we've all had to bear with crippling injuries at key positions that dramatically affect the outcome of a team's season and the overall product on the field. When you've got injury-ridden teams filled with inexperienced backups, the quality of the games suffer.

I'd love to see the NFL follow the example of MLB, NHL and even the NBA and create a legitimate developmental league. It would not only provide a place for all of those almost-but-not-quite players to continue playing the game professionally, but it would keep them game-ready in the event of an emergency and the "major league" team needs their services. It would also provide a place to better develop young players straight out of college, players that aren't quite producing at the levels they need to be and players returning from injuries. If someone is coming off of an injury or struggling in general, they could be sent down to the minor team to shake off the rust or prove they're actually capable of playing on the main roster.

Injuries happen. It'd just be great to see more teams be able to weather those storms instead of completely collapse because of them.

Granted, a developmental league wouldn't fix all of the other glaring problems...but, it would help fix some of them.
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Lions fan living in Central Florida. Games are never on and when they are it's still the Lions playing slightly under the level of their opponent. So, I go over my co-worker's house and play some old fashioned pen and paper D&D.
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and you don't read about large numbers of retired hockey players putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger due to CTE.
True but I always wondered if this was because there are less brain injuries in hockey (NHL injury reports are hilariously vague, so it's hard to know) or if they're there but we just don't hear about them as much since hockey just isn't that popular when compared to the NFL (which also happens to be the reason, in my view, why it has yet to be fully corrupted.)
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True but I always wondered if this was because there are less brain injuries in hockey
Nah. Hockey players are just stupid.
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