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Old 09-30-2017, 11:20 AM   #101
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The NBA has bigger balls than the NFL! Literally!

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A memo was sent to teams Friday, a day after Commissioner Adam Silver said he expected players would stand for the anthem .

In the memo, obtained by The Associated Press, Deputy Commissioner Mark Tatum suggested teams use their opening games “to demonstrate your commitment to the NBA’s core values of equality, diversity, inclusion and serve as a unifying force in the community.”

He recommended an address by a player or coach to fans before the anthem, or a video featuring players or community leaders speaking about important issues and showing photos from past community events.

The league’s preseason schedule begins Saturday with two games, including the NBA champion Golden State Warriors hosting Denver.

Tatum said the league supports and encourages players to express their views on matters that are important to them, while reminding of the rule that players, coaches and trainers stand respectfully for the anthem.
This just shows you how unbelievably stupid it is for leftists to use THE FLAG as the target of their protests...even the NBA, with fans who are heavily minority and Democrats politically, is getting out ahead of this mess to try to prevent the clusterfark the NFL is seeing.

The NFL is deeply, tremendously stupid for letting this go on at all.
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Old 09-30-2017, 11:38 PM   #102
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I'll try to catch up with all of this.

1. When did everyone here become the PC police? Why are you guys suddenly acting like SJWs and telling people what they can and can't do and say?

2. I can't even believe I need to say this, my financial stake in kneeling/not kneeling is basically nothing. That was a fixed contract that is over so it doesn't even matter. Even if it wasn't this is just so far removed it doesn't even matter. Also even if I did have a financial stake wouldn't I want the NFL to make the right financial move regardless?

3. Do you guys not understand that cord cutters are hitting the revenue of all cable channels whether or not the cord cutters watched the NFL? ESPN is losing money either way and then they can't bid for monday night football. People are just not watching TV and it is hurting all channels across the board. When everything on tv is in freefall trying to say "no it is actually this ephemeral kneeling situation that is the real cause of declining revenue" is ridiculous. Even in that study you cited which surveyed only 1000 people the NFL stated they didn't believe it was a contributing factor. Even more importantly this survey is a terrible way to even attempt to measure anything. Did these people actually change their viewing habits or did they just say something in a survey. You just can't really trust surveys for things like this because people will not answer in useful ways. They will say they aren't watching it because of how they feel about this issue but then go ahead and watch it. You see it all the time in game reviews.

For example: http://steamcommunity.com/id/kawachi...commended/730/

This person has played CS:GO for 1400 hours but he has these issues with CS:GO therefore the game is bad according to his review, oh he also played 20 hrs in the last 2 weeks but that is only because he hates the game so much. If you listened to limbaugh last week he had tons of callers who were just like this guy saying things like the content of this review. They watch all the time and have for years but have an issue with this kneeling thing therefore fuck football, and you just know they will watch the nfl still. For something like this you need to actually measure both what they say and what they do.

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Old 10-01-2017, 06:11 AM   #103
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telling people what they can and can't do and say?
I'm sure you'd agree with an employee of yours who said the same to you were you to suggest he/she should stop ruining your company's reputation by protesting during working hours and pissing off customers, lol. RIGHT?

You have no constitutional right to 'free speech' protests while privately employed and on your employer's dime. The First Amendment protects us against government censorship, not private employment expectations and limitations. If you had a nutsack to your name you'd willingly admit this reality.

Additionally, telling people what you will NOT PAY FOR is not telling people what they CAN DO. The NFL's customer base does not want to pay millionaires so that they can be afforded the opportunity to piss off their customers. They can keep doing it. They'll just lose customers, as they have been already.

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2. my financial stake in kneeling/not kneeling is basically nothing.
You have a financial stake, therefore you have a bias. That's quite simple to understand.

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3. Do you guys not understand that cord cutters are hitting the revenue of all cable channels whether or not the cord cutters watched the NFL?
Cord cutting is hurting ESPN but has not affected the other major broadcasters (ABC, CBS, FOX) to the degree it is hurting ESPN. It has been pointed out to you repeatedly that the majority of the fans do NOT approve of the protests, the NFL has damaged its brand, ticket sales and viewing are both down, and the largest portion of viewers who are actually tuning out identify the Pledge protests as their principal reason for tuning out.

These have all been linked and discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Feel free to continue to deny, deny, deny that the Pledge protesting is having any effect. You're wrong and only a leftist might believe you.
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