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Old 07-19-2018, 08:25 PM   #2021
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You are acting like a child. This isn't a kids game where we make sure everyone gets a turn with the ball. There is no time period in the history of civilizations when empires were not battling each other for spheres of influence/control. The United States is an empire in a battle with primarily China, Iran and Russia for control.

The history of the United States since at least ww2 is really a history of colonialism. When Trump talks about making america great again he is talking about a time period where the CIA toppled governments we didn't like, and exploiting the resources and manpower of other countries while exporting their wealth.

That is what the US is, and that is what every empire in all of history is.
Oh for fucks sakes, you're the one who literally stated you support the US meddling around the world, you just don't want other countries to do it too. Boo fucking hoo that isn't how reality works you dumb fucking partisan shitbag.

Big bad Russia who's building a pipeline to supply Germany with oil, while Germany refuses to pay their share of Nato funding, while begging the US to protect them from big bad Russia. The same Russia that colluded with SoS Clinton and Obozo. Isn't it funny how the left wasn't upset about Russia and didn't give 2 fucks about Russia until they lost the Oval Office. go fucking figure.
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Old 07-19-2018, 08:54 PM   #2022
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You are fully retarded if you really think this.
Reow!!

Let me rephrase.

As was said, every country with any pull meddles in other countries biz.

And as ive stated, Russia has shaken off the iron curtain, that iron curtain is currently in the US in the form of uni party neo cons and neo liberals. You know, your team.

I personally could give a shit if Putin won Trump the election. Even though he didn't...We were just about taken over in a soft coup. Fuck the rules.

What about that 400 Million?
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:00 PM   #2023
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Oh for fucks sakes, you're the one who literally stated you support the US meddling around the world, you just don't want other countries to do it too.
Isn't this the most hilarious fucking trash you have ever heard?

I can see this mofo and people just like him now,

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Going to war in iraq WMD's yellow cake


NO BLOOD FOR OIL BRO!!! THE OIL COMPANIES RUN THE WORLD!!!! SKULL N BONES !!! BUSH IS HITLERS 5TH COUSIN, SR KILLED JKR. (well, that one may be true)


The left just 12 years ago, hated the CIA, hated war, hated Mcain, backed socialist Russia are now all aboard the neo con train..Its the fuckist thing ive ever seen.

I'm so glad i jumped off that ride..
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:21 PM   #2024
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About the Nato thing I will say this though: While I actually agree that the alliance members must pull more of their weight, and at least satisfy the conditions everyone agreed on. It really is a difficult situation.
I think it is understandable that after WW1 and WW2, the other countries weren't exactly happy about the prospect of a new German military power. Ending military ambitions really was an appeasement of other countries for the last couple decades.
Now we can talk about if ever since enough green grass has grown over that. But if Germany really were all of a sudden "Let's build a military that can measure up to the best", a lot of people would still be very suspicious.
And our own Left parties are fighting hard against that here. It's not that no one here would want that. It's just that any political party that were suddenly all pro military, is likely to lose elections, because the history is still so powerful.
Additionally, I wouldn't underestimate how much political leverage the role of protector gave to the USA around the world up to now. Of course it's a cost, but it comes with many benefits as well that could well be worth it.
German territory is a key strategic advantage. If Germany were suddenly all independent, it would naturally also question the need for US bases on its own territory. Whether it is in the interest of the US to lose those is another question.
Similar is true with many territories in east Asia. Well, it is up to the USA what they want. If they decide that the benefits are no longer worth the costs, things will have to change. It's up to you guys.
Countries like Germany will probably have to be forced to ramp up their military such that they have the excuse to do it without political costs.

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Old 07-19-2018, 10:29 PM   #2025
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Isn't this the most hilarious fucking trash you have ever heard?

I can see this mofo and people just like him now,

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The left just 12 years ago, hated the CIA, hated war, hated Mcain, backed socialist Russia are now all aboard the neo con train..Its the fuckist thing ive ever seen.

I'm so glad i jumped off that ride..
Are you talking about me?

I was against the war in Iraq when it happened because I wasn't confident that nation building like that would work. I didn't care about WMDs, that was all fake bullshit the entire time and never had anything to do with the war as I understood it.

I also didn't understand how we were both going to war and cutting taxes, which didn't work out either.

It was pretty disgusting how there was basically no plan for when we won the war. I am still not confident nation building like that can work, but in my opinion we didn't even really try. Instead we just got robbed by Cheney, Betsy Devo's brother, etc who really just ransacked our treasury to pay for basically fake military services.

It remains to be seen if Trump will be worse than Bush Jr, who I'm sure you all voted for.

Things "look" great right now, but guess what, things always look great short term when you take a good economy and then cut taxes. It is like raiding the cookie jar. I don't know if this trade war stuff is going to backfire us into another recession and then a responsible person will have to pull us out of a nose dive again. At least Trump does seem to care about money and isn't just robbing the treasury like bush did. I doubt this trade war stuff is going to go our way though, but I also don't know if it will escalate to a full on recession. The economy is certainly overheating right now though.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:40 PM   #2026
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Are you talking about me?

I was against the war in Iraq when it happened because I wasn't confident that nation building like that would work. I didn't care about WMDs, that was all fake bullshit the entire time and never had anything to do with the war as I understood it.

I also didn't understand how we were both going to war and cutting taxes, which didn't work out either.

It was pretty disgusting how there was basically no plan for when we won the war. I am still not confident nation building like that can work, but in my opinion we didn't even really try. Instead we just got robbed by Cheney, Betsy Devo's brother, etc who really just ransacked our treasury to pay for basically fake military services.

It remains to be seen if Trump will be worse than Bush Jr, who I'm sure you all voted for.

Things "look" great right now, but guess what, things always look great short term when you take a good economy and then cut taxes. It is like raiding the cookie jar. I don't know if this trade war stuff is going to backfire us into another recession and then a responsible person will have to pull us out of a nose dive again. At least Trump does seem to care about money and isn't just robbing the treasury like bush did. I doubt this trade war stuff is going to go our way though, but I also don't know if it will escalate to a full on recession. The economy is certainly overheating right now though.
We didn't have a good economy under Obama, please stop pushing this flat out lie. For once in your pathetic life try and write a rebuttal while remaining in reality. Robbing the treasury like Bush did... um Obama doubled the fucking national debt you dumb shit.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:20 PM   #2027
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We had a recovering economy after Bush drove us into a massive recession.

Obama took Office in 2009



Any reasonable economist would try to dump money into the economy to save it in that situation.
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Old 07-20-2018, 09:22 AM   #2028
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More idiotic/dishonest drivel from Eats. Just conveniently leave out the recession was caused by the sub-prime crisis which was driven by Dodd-Frank and the obliterating of mortgage qualification standards which happened under Bubba. And never mind that George W (of whom I am not a fan) tried to warn us about the coming consequences of Dodd-Frank. And never mind that Obama's "growth" years only look good when compared to 0 or negative growth. They were considered anemic even when they were happening.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:16 AM   #2029
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More idiotic/dishonest drivel from Eats. Just conveniently leave out the recession was caused by the sub-prime crisis which was driven by Dodd-Frank and the obliterating of mortgage qualification standards which happened under Bubba. And never mind that George W (of whom I am not a fan) tried to warn us about the coming consequences of Dodd-Frank. And never mind that Obama's "growth" years only look good when compared to 0 or negative growth. They were considered anemic even when they were happening.
You're going to hurt his feelings with a dose of reality you know. Speaking of loony liberals, anyone else hear about Whoopi Goldberg apparently spitting at Judge Jeanine Pirro? She of course denies it but I'll take the word of a judge over an obviously unhinged racist piece of shit like Whoopi.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:26 PM   #2030
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Eats, ignore these ass clowns. Or, should I say "clown" - as in singular. Because it's all the same person, probably living IN Russia, who is trying his hardest to "sway" your thinking to their crazy bullshit ideology. It's all designed to trigger you.

Nobody in the USA calls it "Bawwston" either. Fat babies!
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:16 PM   #2031
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:24 PM   #2032
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Nobody in the USA calls it "Bawwston" either. Fat babies!


p.s. I don't even like Boston but even I know when you've given up cause you got nuthin except a bunch of broke ass angry-cause-I-lost-so-I-am-throwing-a-tantrum-unless-I-can-break-a-Starbucks-window arguments.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:50 PM   #2033
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Centrist democrats are going to be lost for a very long time. Their party is in such shambles the Republican party will very safely be able to have its own infighting and restructuring and maintain power while it shifts further to the right.

They appear again to be tripling down on non white in their rhetoric and in their candidates. They are running literal communist, and minority candidates.

This along with the word finally getting out to sports ball fans and boomers that they are intentionally being replaced with people who hate them and will vote democrat, and will not be maintaining our civilization, at fucking all..the party is bleeding people badly.

Even blacks are jumping off the plantation. They wont vote R but they will just stay home.

I predict the Republican party will maintain power until the demographic problem is resolved, then, once we have a country again there will be room for union democrats to emerge from the shadows. It might not even be called the democrat party, might be something new.

If the demographic problem isn't fixed then who the hell knows what happens. The division will grow even wider that's for sure. States may start calling for secession in an attempt to retain at least some sense of order.


But this cat is not going back in the bag. Someone will win and someone will lose. The 3rd world or western civilization.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:40 PM   #2034
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Eats, ignore these ass clowns. Or, should I say "clown" - as in singular. Because it's all the same person, probably living IN Russia, who is trying his hardest to "sway" your thinking to their crazy bullshit ideology. It's all designed to trigger you.

Nobody in the USA calls it "Bawwston" either. Fat babies!
They do if their from here, you've never heard of a new england accent? seriously? Yeah no better to think I'm a russian bot.. good god liberals are fucking idiots.
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:07 AM   #2035
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5 year old account, 7K post. Your a Russian shill. I guess...

Its been fascinating watching the Russia narrative from its start, grow and grow and effect peoples world views. Iv'e never witnessed anything like this.

Strozk himself, in his text messages admitted there was no THERE THERE. He knew it was a scam from the get go.

And we still have lefties calling people russian bots.

Does anyone have any clue as to why Tony and John Podesta were granted immunity?

Are they talking? What do they need immunity from? Process crimes? Na... Drumph is the one getting N peached right? Are they talking? What about Pizzagate? Flynn Jr has all but confirmed it.


Where is Q? What about the 40K sealed indictments?
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So, this photoshopped image is taken from the broadway play Les MisÚrables which is a hilarious choice because of the French Revolution and stuff.

Napoleon's reign (who I'm assuming is Trump in this modern day scenario - which is DOUBLY hilarious) was, uh, undone quickly.

We just wait until November and Waterloo? Sounds good to me
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They do if their from here, you've never heard of a new england accent? seriously? Yeah no better to think I'm a russian bot.. good god liberals are fucking idiots.
Ha, I am from those parts. South Boston to be exact. Still say "hat attack" and "lobstah" but, uh, never called is "Bawwston".
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5 year old account, 7K post. Your a Russian shill. I guess...
No, that just proves that you need to get outside more - live more of a life.
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Are you actually analyzing Internet memes Sinistar? Lulz. Get out more, buddy.

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We just wait until November and Waterloo? Sounds good to me
November? It will be good! Until then, I'll just enjoy all the liberal meltdowns. Winning is fun.

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Are you actually analyzing Internet memes Sinistar? Lulz. Get out more, buddy.



November? It will be good! Until then, I'll just enjoy all the liberal meltdowns. Winning is fun.

Son, you have posted here on EvAv over 12k times and you're still a yellow. Hope you are able to move out of your mother's basement soon, maybe join the real world.
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