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Old 12-26-2014, 09:16 AM   #41
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Yeah there is no rubber stamp solution to someone throwing a bunch of traffic from a number of servers at your shit. But I think they could probably do more. Akamai has a service (App layer? I forget the name) that specifically addresses DDoS attacks. If I was trying to make my service more DDoS proof (and lets face it, console makers get a lot of hate so it is probably a good idea), I would abstract my first layer of user authentication to be just a brute force counter, looking for something like 5 user login attempts in under a second - imposing a 20 minute wait on anyone who failed it. I would then have Akamai cache that task (effectively, that means they run it) and only users who pass that are habdled by my actual service.

Full disclosure: I am an ecommerce developer, not a game developer. We do have to have strategies for DDoS attacks though.
Hey don't worry! It's not greedy incompetent companies with outdated or insufficient security measures who are responsible it's all those evil hackers and terrorists. H.R. 4681 and continued government spying will save the internet!
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:17 AM   #42
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PSN seems to be back up and fully functional.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:18 AM   #43
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PSN is still down.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:18 AM   #44
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PSN seems to be back up and fully functional.
I just got booted.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:20 AM   #45
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I've been logged in for about an hour and there are reports Xbox Live is up again so it may be going down again or there are issues in specific regions now. I would think by now people are in full response mode and don't need more analytical data by letting it continue.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:26 AM   #46
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I've been logged in for about an hour and there are reports Xbox Live is up again so it may be going down again or there are issues in specific regions now.
I'm going to try again soon.
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:26 AM   #47
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More than a few people are wishing this little bastard dead.

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Old 12-26-2014, 09:43 AM   #48
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Yeah it went down again not long ago for me as well.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:31 AM   #49
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Yeah, you're right, it's Sony's fault that the hackers are preventing me from getting online right now... you're an idiot.
When companies started implementing these practices of owning multiplayer themselves, I seem to recall a lot of complaints. Gamers couldn't understand why. Oh there were the defenders claiming "technical limitations" (BS) and better experience, but why couldn't we just host a LAN game or host our own server?

My guess is, had this "hack" occurred during the time Sony was first taking away multiplayer control from players, these guys would be applauded as heroes. But now we are used to Sony owning our games and everything being "subscription only", and anyone who interrupts our "fix" needs to die a horrible death.

Hell, with the PS4, Sony literally took a shit all over gamers by telling them they had to PAY if they wanted multiplayer, pay for something gamers didn't even want in the first place (Sony controlled multiplayer). Taking multiplayer hosting out of players hands was just the first step to charging for it. The PS4 is the culmination of that.

See, you don't shove the whole thing in at once, first you apply a lot of lube (PSN is optional and FREE GAMEZ!) and ease it in a little at a time. By the time it's all the way in (PAY TO PLAY MOTHERF***ERS!), your target audience will welcome it!

Think about it. We used to be able to play games with each other when we wanted, for as long as we wanted. Now, not only does Sony dictate when and how long we can play, they are going to force us to pay extra money for it. And you defend that.

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Old 12-26-2014, 01:34 PM   #50
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This just in, Nintendo Network still up. Still free. Faces are being Falcon Punched and noobs still being blue shelled.
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Old 12-26-2014, 02:35 PM   #51
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:11 PM   #52
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PSN is still FUBAR.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:22 PM   #53
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:55 PM   #54
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IIRC there was some other shit about PSN going down from some hacking job a few weeks ago, right? I actually haven't has a single day without PSN problems since THEN.


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Go back and look at the other half of the post you chose to ignore as usual. Then again reading comprehension and critical thought isn't your thing.
I may have misinterpreted what the exact thing was Elektro was saying but that's how you came off (and usually do come off), and I rested easy either way seeing as you usually do go out of your way to be a cynical douchebag. I mean, you criticizing someone for a lack of, "critical thought" is like Cliffy B criticizing someone for being a childish douchebag. You lack critical thought ALL the time, especially highlighted for your tendency of assaulting someone verbally (and not in an adult manner) and then firing 1 shot or 2 off before running away rather than make a counterpoint or admit defeat. So no worries.
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:35 PM   #55
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Yeah it went down again not long ago for me as well.
Another bang up job by Sony.
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Old 12-26-2014, 07:03 PM   #56
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When companies started implementing these practices of owning multiplayer themselves, I seem to recall a lot of complaints. Gamers couldn't understand why. Oh there were the defenders claiming "technical limitations" (BS) and better experience, but why couldn't we just host a LAN game or host our own server?

My guess is, had this "hack" occurred during the time Sony was first taking away multiplayer control from players, these guys would be applauded as heroes. But now we are used to Sony owning our games and everything being "subscription only", and anyone who interrupts our "fix" needs to die a horrible death.

Hell, with the PS4, Sony literally took a shit all over gamers by telling them they had to PAY if they wanted multiplayer, pay for something gamers didn't even want in the first place (Sony controlled multiplayer). Taking multiplayer hosting out of players hands was just the first step to charging for it. The PS4 is the culmination of that.

See, you don't shove the whole thing in at once, first you apply a lot of lube (PSN is optional and FREE GAMEZ!) and ease it in a little at a time. By the time it's all the way in (PAY TO PLAY MOTHERF***ERS!), your target audience will welcome it!

Think about it. We used to be able to play games with each other when we wanted, for as long as we wanted. Now, not only does Sony dictate when and how long we can play, they are going to force us to pay extra money for it. And you defend that.

Welcome little robot, Sony loves you.
Same shit is happening with movies and music. All digital drm controlled content must die.

But consumers are too stupid to realize it and one day soon if not already for console games youll have essentially given up any "rights" you had to actually own something and use it unrestricted and untethered.

Thank god on high ms caved on xbox one. But dont believe any of their shit. It was just too much too soon and they also believed their own hubris.
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:25 PM   #57
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Get PSN credit gift card for christmas, want to buy games on sale, can't add credit, can't get games. Total BS.

Anyone think Sony will extend the sale or compensate people for all this downtime? I haven't had much like with PSN all December month. Seems to be always down or performing scheduled maintenance. I was literally 3 days trying to buy frozen costumes for littlebigplanet 3.

I knoq XBL has been suffering downtimes too but they seem to be shorter and with less impact. I haven't had any issues buying XBL content or connecting other than a couple of hours yesterday.

I know these guys doing this are idiots but Sony has more problems than just this, PSN is a joke. Since PS4 has been released the free games have been low quality compared to before, the whole thing needs to be reworked.
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This just in, Nintendo Network still up. Still free.
I'm sure all four of you are enjoying it.
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I would disagree that the PS4 Plus games have been of poor quality. There are only so many titles available, they really can't just give them all to you. Compared to Xbox they are light years better. But whatever.

As far as internets is concerned, it is not shocking that Microsoft has a better handle on the whole thing. They do this for a living with their Azure platform.

I am not giving Sony a pass. I think they do need to realize they are the big fish this time around and they need to get some re-architecture done to help mitigate problems like this. DDoS is a pain in the ass, but they can be worked through better than what Sony is obviously doing.

That being said people running DDoS are some of the biggest talentless pussies around. Who the fuck can't run a DDoS on something?
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