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Old 02-18-2017, 01:20 AM   #41
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What Valor meant as you obviously don't converse with him enough to actually know what he's saying, is we should be as tough on letting people in as they are to us. Including Mexico who wrongly imprisoned a US soldier for crossing the border with a firearm in his vehicle. While Obama waited as long as he could before interviening. The same Obama who gladly traded known terrorists for a deserter without a second thought. Starting to notice a theme there? The outgoing administration has gone out of their way over the last 8 years to essentially aid our enemies and people like you are pissed that Trump is trying to actually protect Americans. This is the reality after 8 years of Obama, an increase in radicalized attacks on US soil from San Bernardino, to the Boston Marathon bombers, to the Florida nightclub to Ft Hood. He has made the US weaker while inciting race tenio
Ooooooh, so what he meant and what he wrote are different things? Shit, it is almost like he makes bad points with shitty rhetoric that makes him sound like a monster and you'd rather try and put words in his mouth than realize that what he's saying is just that, shit.
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:24 AM   #42
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Also to consider, the media probably tries to set itself up with a success story with this: If we go by the narrative demonstrated earlier, of "the only reason he didn't do more was because the law didn't allow more, and his incompetence", I wouldn't be surprised they'd later also claim "the only reason he didn't do more was our preemptive outrage hyperbole intimidating him". You know, if you are so dead convinced in a man's motives, you just look for anything, you even start to see things that aren't there. I mean, how far have we come, that such absurd speculations about "true intentions" are becoming the logical basis for policy analysis. This "pre-cognition" is a new level of low.. It really comes across desperate, after a year of painting the devil on the wall and losing all credibility, and it just gets worse. I wonder how many decades it will take to ever repair the broken trust between media and populace. Or maybe it's actually good that trust is finally over, since it never was and never can be warranted. But a more prevalent critical thinking probably will remain a wishful thinking.
How is saying "Trump wanted a Muslim ban" in any sense false or an assassination of character when you can look back at statements he's said where he wanted exactly that? Like I get that trying to imply he's secretly 200 percent Hitler or something would be cause for some real concern among those who value truth but that's not what is going on here. He said he wanted a thing, he asked his aides to get him that as legally as he could and then got that EO to sign. Which of those statements are false?
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:28 AM   #43
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It's terrible because Trump isn't a globalist in tight with the UN's desire for one world government that the MSM and rich cunts like George Soros want.
It is like reading a complete dripfeed of Infowars propaganda pumped straight into my veins. Or listening to True Capitalist Radio and actually thinking it isn't a comedy show making fun of that shit.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:52 AM   #44
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Political discourse has become such an untrustworthy whirlwind, that these days I choose to judge the situation only by the acts at hand to find clarity. This is something I learned a lot in life, the difference between people, that there are those that speak well, but do bad, and those that speak bad, but do good. I have not yet a firm opinion where the current administration really stands.

Personally, looking at his life and character overall, I find the notion not convincing that Trump is a racist who wants the Ethnostate. I realize how he seems to come across sometimes, with a lot of people's heightened sensibilities about words, and I am aware what some of the folks that like him are. But I also noticed that extremists on every political side are not happy with him for a lot of reasons. I also was often surprised to listen to the reasons some people of colour have that support Trump, including Arabs. And that's something that gives me pause. The Left has been tip-toeing too long around hard issues, ostensibly for racial concerns. But for a lot of people out there, for a lot of members of minorities actually, racism is no longer their biggest issue in life, other much more important factors have come up, that the Left failed to address in making race the single most important issue on everything.

So what we have seen, and what we will continue to see, is actually a higher racial diversity in politics, an increased diversity in Republicans again. I think this is what the Left fears most, to lose its representative strangle hold on minorities. In the past, the Left has managed to conflate certain ideas in the minds of many. And that is Socialist policies and the natural social interests of humans, such as good race relations, would be the same thing and the only thing. We are about to find out, it really isn't. The Left wants the incidents, the uprising, the Trumpocalypse, so much, it provokes it, to go along its narrative. It lost sight of what really matters to most people of any kind, the calm peace to go along your daily business.

But I understand you have a difficult stand here and people are pig piling on you. You're sorta brave to have kept your stand here. To be honest, I'm not symapthetic with everything in this thread. So I will give you this heads up: to get back on topic, I like the act of the Devolver guy, that regardless big governments politics, he works willing on a private and self-empowered basis to give foreign indie game developers that are hit unfairly by sanctions a chance, to build cultural bridges, keep conversation open, support the good guys of bad regions. I believe in the potential of people around the world, their abilities and intelligence, their decency and good will, I believe a better world is possible, and that this benefits not least of all the West.

So I have a present for you. There is a guy I greatly admire, who's been able to lift my spirit in dark moments, the motivational speaker Les Brown:



As far as I know, the guy was a Dem, which might surprise many. I think a majority of conservatives would be highly sympathetic with this guy.
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:21 AM   #45
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Ooooooh, so what he meant and what he wrote are different things? Shit, it is almost like he makes bad points with shitty rhetoric that makes him sound like a monster and you'd rather try and put words in his mouth than realize that what he's saying is just that, shit.
You choose hyperbole and call my points shit to toe the line rather than debate. You don't have the facts on your side and you know it.

Half the world isn't welcoming to outsiders (especially those who disregard border security) from the merely mean "We'll throw you in jail for being illegal till your embassy comes to retrieve you" like most Latin American locals.

Then we have the meaner "we're going to call you spies and throw you in jail, sign you up for slave labor and/or execute you as a state act to make a political statement until your country grovels enough and we make our point" like Iran and North Korea.

Then you have the desperate like Australia who are so overwhelmed with illegals when they find them they export them to a whole island to get rid of them as they extradite them back to their country of origin. However while on the island they are nominally treated as 1st world citizens.

Then you have the barbarians who will kill you outright. This isn't a secret nor is it anything unusual in "some" places in the world. It doesn't have to be a terrorist. Here's the warning from the U.S. State Department about your most generous place in the world, Iraq. Emphasis mine:

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Risk of Violence to U.S. Citizens: U.S. citizens in Iraq remain at critical risk for kidnapping and terrorist violence.
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Within areas under ISIL control, the Iraqi government has little or no ability to exercise control and ensure public safety. Additionally, criminal gangs and local militias pose a potential threat to U.S. citizens.
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People belonging to religious and ethnic minorities, LGBTI persons, and people who express support for the government of Iraq or Western institutions are at grave risk in these areas
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kidnapping, imprisonment, or execution.
This is for LEGAL visitors, not even citizens.

So, perhaps it's a little much to suggest we greet illegals (or legals) the same way the barbarians in the Middle East do, but you clearly let the point fly over your head.

The point is, of course, that many nations in the 1st world don't seem to recognize how ghastly other countries treat visitors, much less illegal visitors. Perhaps with a little less welcoming environment; for example no red carpet of entitlements and more serious repercussions for violating our sovereign territories and laws rather than the status quo of "just keep your nose clean until the next amnesty bill passes!" we'd be in better shape. And that's just one more reason I voted for Trump and why I celebrated his victory. America's victory really.

But you knew that; you just wanted to be douchy mcdouche because you got triggered which is fine but next time reply with something debatable rather than "this has got to be a troll, right?!" if it's so easy to refute.
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:55 AM   #46
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Old 02-18-2017, 12:47 PM   #47
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It is like reading a complete dripfeed of Infowars propaganda pumped straight into my veins. Or listening to True Capitalist Radio and actually thinking it isn't a comedy show making fun of that shit.
Listen, progressives are authoritarians trying to pretend they give a shit about social issues, all the while trying to grow government and remove Constitution granted rights like the 2nd amendment. Why do you think they want to do that? Why do you think liberals are more interested in what other countries and the UN think way before American citizens? Why do you think they have tried to divide people the way they have, or riot in the streets anytime things don't go their way? Do you really need Alex Jones to tell you things that are so blatantly obvious and happening daily before yor very eyes?

Even a neocon in George Bush sr, was pushing forth the idea of one world governments years ago, yep that Bush family with all their ties to Saudi Arabia, much like Clinton and all her ties and donations from regimes that hate us. These politicians don't care about you. They never have with few exc
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:24 PM   #48
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How do we create peace out of such violent intents?

Is peace really only the peace of the victor in war, of one who has killed all of his enemies?
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:11 PM   #49
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It is like reading a complete dripfeed of Infowars propaganda pumped straight into my veins. Or listening to True Capitalist Radio and actually thinking it isn't a comedy show making fun of that shit.
So still no actual arguments or facts to debate or counter? Me thinks we know who the troll is here. Begone and agitate no more! Either come back armed with something to actually counter the facts or don't come back to this thread at all.

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Old 02-18-2017, 02:42 PM   #50
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How do we create peace out of such violent intents?

Is peace really only the peace of the victor in war, of one who has killed all of his enemies?
I wouldn't say killed so much as bent the enemy to their will or otherwise dominated them. This can happen a number of ways outside of violence though sometimes violence is the most effective and quickest way. However the way the current Western World treats victory as a crime and something to be ashamed of and to apologize for I don't think it's the most effective way these days.

Treaties, agreements, etc. These are also valid ways of gaining and ensuring dominance as long as everyone agrees to the rules and doesn't abuse the honor system.

Unfortunately for globalists people and countries were agreeing to the rules but totally abusing the honor system which, while good for the elite, is what causes the backlash and jolts toward nationalism from the regular folks.

Which is another way of enforcing dominance on the enemies. 2 years from now people will still bitch about Trump but the riots and so forth will have died down to a few violent websites hosted by the same ISPs who host Stormfront and other extreme sites of that ilk.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:09 PM   #51
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I don't give a shit what progressives say or cry about currently, because they've been neutered across most of the country and at the federal level (see the scoreboard in my sig, lol). They still need to be opposed at every turn, if only to keep RINOs from getting comfortable with their buddies on the left, but they're like a rabid dog whose teeth and nuts have been removed. Let 'em yip.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:08 AM   #52
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I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right game here, is it supposed to look so dated and so top down?
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I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right game here, is it supposed to look so dated and so top down?
You can't get in unless you have a pixelart greencard, or at least a retro visa.
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