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Old 09-26-2019, 02:16 PM   #4601
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Hey, I hear they got him now! He's going down...finally! lolololol.

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Is the Earth getting hotter? Not really, not since 2000.
No statistically significant warming since, depending on your source and data set, somewhere from 1995 -2000 until today (2019). Two-plus decades.

We're doomed.
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Old 09-26-2019, 03:00 PM   #4602
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This climate bullshit is a waste of time. The argument is over. Its about to be put back in its closet for another 20 years.

Here is some good topical stuff worth talking about. Your country before, was full of hate and fear. Now, you have the opportunity to rebuild it, with infinite non whites.
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Oh no, an organization with 6000 members has made an add you don't like because it promotes non whites, the horror. Definitely good topical stuff worth talking about...
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:44 PM   #4604
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Pelosi is all over these Trump Ukraine shenanigans! And she's recycling while she's at it!



And Joe is on the job as well!



Don't forget about poor Hillary. Sad, really.

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Old 09-26-2019, 07:52 PM   #4605
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Treaty, signed by Bill Clinton, between U.S. and Ukraine.

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I transmit herewith the Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998. I transmit also, for the information of the Senate, an exchange of notes which was signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application, as well as the report of the Department of State with respect to the Treaty.

The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking offenses. The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state.
lololololololol.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:17 PM   #4606
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Well, the specific complaint isn't anything about if the US/Ukraine can cooperate in an investigation as much as if it was appropriate for the President himself to bring up the matter.

That's like the President looking into the investigation of a Union boss; out of character and out of scope for someone with supposedly bigger things on his mind.

It is arguably inappropriate but certainly not illegal.

On the other hand, it might take someone with the clout of the president to get traction on kickstarting an investigation that clearly intersects with possible questionable activities on the part of the Vice President Biden and President Obama. Not that he was asking for that, but we all know damaging Hunter Biden damages Joe's chances. Even the most stout Trump supporter has to acknowledge this.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:07 AM   #4607
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It is arguably inappropriate but certainly not illegal.
The executive branch enforces the laws. Certainly not illegal, not inappropriate either.

And anyone who doesn't realize EVERY conversation between world leaders is a persuasion/influence tug of war for particular ends isn't living in reality, lol.
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The executive branch enforces the laws. Certainly not illegal, not inappropriate either.
Surprisingly, I side a little with the left here.

There's no doubt in my mind Biden used his political influence either on behalf of Hunter or at the request of Hunter in both the Ukraine and China dealings. And this warrants an investigation as do the shady dealings of Cloudstrike.

Which, for those that have read the actual transcript instead of just regurgitating the MSM commentary, Looking into Cloudstrike is what the "favor" was about, not Biden. MSNBC skipped nearly two whole page of comments of the transcript so they could stitch "favor" and the first mention of a the prosecutor who was dismissed apparently at Vice President Biden's blackmail demand. That's an important 2 pages!

Still, there's a big difference between the FBI or DOJ launching an investigation and the President drilling down on ONE specific act of corruption or single American who should normally not merit his time or trouble.

Google CEO doesn't go talk to Apple CEO when an engineer quits one company to go to the other to make sure everyone knows the engineer has a non-compete or they'd better not find a line of code or functionality that was imagined while the engineer worked for the first company. They have people for that.
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For those not following the case against the people who released the Planned Parenthood videos of executives and clinic managers bartering baby parts for profit (personal and otherwise) recently there was testimony from a guy who claims to have performed 50,000 abortions. He is touted as one of the most prolific abortionists in the country.

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So to make sure they get the BEST baby parts in top condition they dissect the baby through delimbing, like a tree, so they can get it the torso and head out. And the baby is ALIVE during this.

Or they give the mother dangerous doses of drugs to induce labor in a shorter time frame than normal and, when they don't pair it with a second drug (which according to the videos and testimony, not using the second drug was standard procedure at Planned Parenthood), the baby is born alive and able to be fully "harvested".

I can't believe people defend this slaughter as moral, human, or "a right" and give millions of dollars to this corporation. Even if it is a rare case it isn't worth it.
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:53 PM   #4610
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The Ukrainian prosecutor fired after Biden's extortionist demand to save his son has sworn UNDER OATH that he was fired to appease Biden and protect Biden's son and the company.

lol. Nobody cared about that shit in 2016 when it happened, did they? Or about Senate Dems contacting Ukraine in 2018 to threaten loss of funds if Ukraine didn't investigate Trump. Lamestream fucking media.

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You haven't fully overcome your public school and collegiate programming yet. Perhaps a few more years.

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I can't believe people defend this slaughter
The Democrats defended slavery in the 19th century and abortion in the 20th/21st centuries. It's not surprising at all that the party of racism, socialism, and sexual hedonism is also the party that defends a method of eliminating minorities and inconvenient progeny.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:22 PM   #4611
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lol. The intelligence community recently revised their whistleblower document to remove the requirement that a whistleblower actually have first hand knowledge of misbehavior. Now, hearsay and bullshit are perfectly acceptable.

No deep state coup here, lol. None!

Would you like to destroy our duly elected president? Press #3 ("I heard about it from others") and we'll do the rest.
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So to make sure they get the BEST baby parts in top condition they dissect the baby through delimbing, like a tree, so they can get it the torso and head out. And the baby is ALIVE during this.
What the fuck?

I want these people to fucking DIE. NOW.

When does Trump tweet this for an entire week straight 20 times a day, do a white house address, drop flyers via air, use his little text program? EVERYONE needs to know about this. And not just know it, be beat over the head with it until they get the full weight of whats going on. Video proof, Times Square, WH now controls the big screen. 24 hour fucking loop. Every TV channel, for a week, 24 hours.

This country is a goddam walking nightmare, and everyone is hiding amongst all the gaslighting, knowing full well there are 100 things going on right now that are cause for fucking pitchforks and torches.

Netflix N Chill Nigga. Netflix N Chill.

Trump is not doing this right. We need a mini revolution if anything is going to change. And what is fat fuck Barr doing? Gun control... Fat piece of garbage. Have a stroke, faggot.
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:17 PM   #4613
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The executive branch enforces the laws. Certainly not illegal, not inappropriate either.
What are you trying to say here? How does the executive branch enforcing laws relate to whether this was illegal or inappropriate?

Are you saying that the executive branch can't break the law? If not, then what point are you trying to make?

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What are you trying to say here?
I'm saying you're a douchebag.

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You'd have to ask Obama that last question. He's the president who murdered Americans overseas without charge, trial, or jury. (1) I see you! (2) boom, you're dead.

* This is a manufactured, phony 'crisis.'
* The whistleblower is a bullshitter spouting hearsay.
* The IC changed their whistleblower form so that bullshit hearsay would be allowed rather than actual firsthand knowledge.
* The Dems screamed for the transcript, then sputtered and lied about it when it was released.
* The supposedly 'withheld' money for the 'favor' of investigating Biden wasn't even communicated to them as held up until a month after the phone call, and they got the money as well. lulz.
* And on and on and on.

You douchebags will fail, lol. You lost in 2016 and you still can't get over it.



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If you think this was appropriate then why did you, and the rest of the GOP, chant "no collusion" before?

If you didn't think collusion was ok, then how could you think Trump colluding with Ukraine is ok now? How could this be appropriate? Try not to deflect in your answer or pretend this was about corruption because that would go through the doj/fbi. Not trump's personal attorney. Also they wouldn't try to conceal the transcript by falsely classifying it.

Also why did the WH suddenly release the money when this complaint got out? They have given conflicting reasons for why they withheld the money as if they were lying, and as soon as they got caught, despite incorrectly marking the phone call as classified and trying to conceal it, the money was suddenly released.

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marking the phone call as classified and trying to conceal it
Trying to conceal it! Oh MY! lolol.

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Keep trying, buddy. Keep trying. You'll get him this time! lololol.

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Trying to conceal it! Oh MY! lolol.

“We never moved them over unless they were legitimately, in the contents classified.”

The idea is that they are supposed to be put there when the classified information is a matter of nat'l security. So of course some calls should go there. They aren't supposed to be classified to conceal the president using his office for his own personal gain.

Try again to defend the indefensible. Or just deflect some more, like you just tried to in a pathetically transparent way.

You also didn't answer any of my questions because you don't have real values, just tribalism. That is why you can't explain why you suddenly are ok with collusion when you have been chanting "no collusion" for the past 3 years.

Trump telling a foreign leader to investigate political rivals is a prima facie abuse of presidential powers.

Just answer this question, if clear evidence of a quid pro quo is discovered, would this still be ok?

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Try again to defend the indefensible.
Try again to get rid of the guy who beat the hell out of your Messiah's chosen replacement.



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Try again to defend the indefensible. Or just deflect some more, like you just tried to in a pathetically transparent way.
Pot meet Kettle. The is absolutely no evidence of "collusion" here. Certainly no more than is typically permitted by Democrats.

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In May of 2018, Sens. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote to Ukraine’s Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko asking the Ukraine government to keep four investigations open related to the Mueller probe into Russian election interference in the U.S. and indicated that their support for foreign aid to Ukraine could be in jeopardy.
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No collusion able to be proven during the political witch hunt - one everyone except the furthest left progressives knew was a futile - at the HUGE expense of the taxpayer.

No collusion now, just another reason to spend taxpayer dollars and distract the country from how Congress is ignoring real issues in what is likely another futile attempt to nuke Trump and will take MONTHS. Unless you cut and paste the notes, or twist the words, there is no collision or asking for interference in the campaign.

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He didn't. He asked to investigate corruption, particularly an IT company who many suspect are not being totally forthcoming with their investigation of the DNC server hack and then, much later, why a prosecutor was dismissed who was looking into an energy company Hunter Biden was, for some reason unrelated to expertise or other suitability, hired at.

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Depends, as far as you are concerned there is already clear and conclusive proof of wrong doing when by any objective measure there is no wrong doing. Just a rambling conversation about corruption starting with the IT firm who supposedly pointed to Russia as the culprit in the DNC hack (though they wouldn't let the FBI verify their results) then moving to why a prosecutor was fired when he was looking into an energy company.

An energy company that so-happened to hire Hunter Biden who knew nothing about the energy industry and had no expertise, and didn't even speak the language, for a huge salary.

In the zealot rush to manufacture a scenario (as Schiff and MSNBC have both done to make the call seem more sinister and inappropriate) and damage Donald Trump as much as possible the bigger issue is now why, tangentially, is there/has there been no investigation into Joe Biden's CLEAR ADMISSION (see the YouTube video) he used his political position as and US funding to browbeat the Ukrainians into firing that prosecutor and basically deep-sixing the corruption investigation into that energy company.

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And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him.
So, who decides what is clear and convincing evidence of corruption. The alt-left has already made up their minds and made the DNC and the Democratic leaders take a path which just distracts from all the other problems.

And, conveniently enough, from any Democrat obstruction, CORRUPTION, and election meddling on their part.
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Pot meet Kettle. The is absolutely no evidence of "collusion" here. Certainly no more than is typically permitted by Democrats.
You sound like you haven't read the letter. They didn't threaten anything, and asked 3 specific questions in their oversight role.

As senators on the Committee on Foreign Relations, which not only provides oversight for arms deals but also general oversight of America’s relationships with its allies, Menendez, Durbin, and Leahy were acting within their constitutional rights and obligations as official representatives of the U.S. government with oversight responsibility over the executive branch.

It is congress job to exercise oversight on the president in general. That is the system of checks and balances. You know that. It isn't the presidents job to go after his political rivals.

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He didn't. He asked to investigate corruption, particularly an IT company who many suspect are not being totally forthcoming with their investigation of the DNC server hack and then, much later, why a prosecutor was dismissed who was looking into an energy company Hunter Biden was, for some reason unrelated to expertise or other suitability, hired at

An energy company that so-happened to hire Hunter Biden who knew nothing about the energy industry and had no expertise, and didn't even speak the language, for a huge salary.

In the zealot rush to manufacture a scenario (as Schiff and MSNBC have both done to make the call seem more sinister and inappropriate) and damage Donald Trump as much as possible the bigger issue is now why, tangentially, is there/has there been no investigation into Joe Biden's CLEAR ADMISSION (see the YouTube video) he used his political position as and US funding to browbeat the Ukrainians into firing that prosecutor and basically deep-sixing the corruption investigation into that energy company.
Can you even prove the prosecutor was actually investigating that and not obstructing the investigation? Everyone serious about getting rid of corruption wanted that prosecutor gone. The eu, the us, anti corruption groups in the Ukraine. The only person who has made such a claim about this investigation of Biden was the deeply corrupt prosecutor who got sacked.

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