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Old 07-11-2018, 08:59 PM   #1941
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Yes, yes!, of course my friend, this is the entire point! What we DO about it. Introduce more socialism to help them?
Educating them more on why the West was so mean to them? Indulging their own resentments with agreement?
Sending a sort of help that leaves them with nothing to do and nothing to learn?

If you really want to help, to quicken things, and you really can, what we do is teach hard practical skills.
And nothing else. Nothing else than that, my friend. And there are liberals, right now, good people,
who are busy building schools in the Congo, and not agreeing with all that Social Justice crap at all.
And friend, it works! This actually works! It's one guy at a time, but it works.
And with each more, their conditions actually improve, right there at their home.

You don't need to make things easier for those you want to help. Make it harder! Challenge them!
It's to let them grow on the challenge. No matter how unfair. Just equip them with useful skills.

But also, no, no, no! my friend, not at all. Many of these countries had no functioning government. They had precisely no functioning infrastructure.
They didn't even have much value orientation anymore. Many of their best people died in the war or were deported after, much skill got lost, industry was gone, living space didnt exist.
And even worse, whatever skills they had left, were either often irrelevant, outdated. They had to learn entire new skills they never had before. They. had. to. learn. They learned.
And the only ones they could learn from were their enemies... everyone around them was their enemy now, and full of resentment from the war.
so how do you learn? First of all by overcoming your own resentment. You must make friends. Your enemies. Friends. Forgive yourself. And them.
Simply ignore the naysayers. let them face their own fate. You don't need to fight them at all. Orient yourself to the good of life. Whatever little good you manage.
Let it grow in you, and concentrate on what matters in life. Family, hearth and home, and finding work, whatever you can find, whatever is needed.

And all you do if you want to help them -- all you ever do is teach practical skills that make them useful on the market.
And encourage them about opportunities on a free market. The value of freedom.
Not more equality. Freedom. For everyone! Their chances. Despite the odds! Try harder! Pain is good!
Let them experience the pride and satisfaction of their growth on the challenges, however unfair. Life is unfair! In everything, always!
Don't support their resentment. Don't remind them of it either. Don't agree with them on it. Actively argue against it when it comes up.
That no matter what difficulties you've been through or still encounter, sometimes you will meet good people, sometimes bad,
find the good and make deals, simply avoid the bad, no hard feelings, and continue your life. That's the secret.
That is all who succeed anywhere ever did. Keep running, keep struggling, it's hard, keep it productive.

Now whether you think this is silly and naive, you're welcome. But this is what I have to say on that. This is what helped me most in life.

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Old 07-11-2018, 09:30 PM   #1942
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Because he's a fucking racist and doesn't think people with darker skin have enough smarts or sense to bottle up their animal instincts in the pursuit of what we would deem "civilized" society in western terms. The darker the skin, the harder it is for them to stop fucking things up for white people.
In some senses it's not racism though. Blacks are 13% of the US population, yet they are responsible for 85% of violent crime in the US. And those are FBI stats. Now if a lefty hears someone point out that factual statistic, they automatically call the person stating it racist. You can't be racist for pointing out facts. It's also not racist for pointing to black culture as a lot of the reason why that statistic is fact. Yet they're still too busy blaming whitey rather than fix their own shitty culture and grow the fuck up. For any black to claim oppression in the US in 2018? I'm sorry not fucking buying it.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:31 PM   #1943
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Yeah, because shit like forced population control is crazy, just like white power rallies.

It doesn't even make sense in western countries where the birth rate is just barely hanging on anyway. This is like being concerned about a tsunami in Idaho.
If their plan is to kill people off for the sake of it? Yes that is crazy. Much akin to your crazy global warming scam that you apparently bought into hook line and sinker.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:08 PM   #1944
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In some senses it's not racism though. Blacks are 13% of the US population, yet they are responsible for 85% of violent crime in the US. And those are FBI stats. Now if a lefty hears someone point out that factual statistic, they automatically call the person stating it racist. You can't be racist for pointing out facts. It's also not racist for pointing to black culture as a lot of the reason why that statistic is fact. Yet they're still too busy blaming whitey rather than fix their own shitty culture and grow the fuck up. For any black to claim oppression in the US in 2018? I'm sorry not fucking buying it.
I'm sure that has nothing to do with us locking up 33% of black males, totally fucking up their family structure, often for nonviolent drug offenses.

Drug Sentencing Disparities
In the 2015 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, about 17 million whites and 4 million African Americans reported having used an illicit drug within the last month.
African Americans and whites use drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges is almost 6 times that of whites.
African Americans represent 12.5% of illicit drug users, but 29% of those arrested for drug offenses and 33% of those incarcerated in state facilities for drug offenses.

Or that a larger % of black people live in poverty.

Or that we have a country where black people are afraid of the police and don't trust them, so they can't utilize them well to prevent crime.

Maybe, just maybe, white people have had a large hand in forcing black people to create their own subculture and prevent them from integrating. We literally used to segregate schools and bathrooms, and this wasn't really that long ago. Even now, in much of the south things are very segregated.

I personally know that we deny black people legitimate work opportunities in the south, forcing them into illegal trades to make decent money. I once created a job for myself by talking to a person who was buying a bunch of houses and apartment complexes with millions of dollars. It is kind of involved to explain, but it was a tech kind of job and right before me a black woman had given him literally the same pitch and got rejected. She was very upset, and honestly rightfully so. They also later had to do a hand shake deal with the council members for St. Bernard to never rent to black people for any of their properties there including a large apartment complex. All of this is illegal, but also nobody gives a fuck or enforces these civil rights laws. Anyone in the south pretending otherwise is lying to themselves.

I'm not advocating for affirmative action. But I'm also not going to listen to a bunch of racist bullshit about low IQ and crime when I know first hand that we systematically oppress them and deny them advantages.

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If their plan is to kill people off for the sake of it? Yes that is crazy. Much akin to your crazy global warming scam that you apparently bought into hook line and sinker.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:46 PM   #1946
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Black conservatives argue exactly differently, that it was liberal policies that ruined black communities, destroyed families, increased crime, to which there is no other choice than to respond accordingly.
Hence why black conservatives really wish white liberals would try less to "help" blacks with counter productive policies, for no other reason than to continue their great socialist experiment.
They think, what black communities need most is conservative values. Simple as that. Unfortunately, the dems have done their best to erode that over the last few decades, which was exactly reflected in the statistical decline of black communities.

For more information what black conservatives think, and how they are constantly obstructed in their work by both white liberals and black marxists that call themselves "civil rights activists", you can watch the following.
Very educational. Black conservatives btw are very successful in society, earning more money on average than comparable whites, stable families, little to no problems with police. Often they worked themselves up from poor conditions.
Obviously they do something right. Which is why they would be such a good model, if they were allowed to exert more influence on black communities again. Unfortunately, socialist activists do their best to prevent them from that,
often physically threatening them, and smearing them vile. So they have little choice than to go back to conservative red state communities and enjoy a pretty good life there with their white republican friends in orderly neigborhoods.







Also, black liberals like Faithless too have a completely different approach to the problem than white liberals.



But actually, things are already changing, the number of Blacks from all walks of life that do not agree with liberal policies are growing fast. Very fast. There is a huge amount of videos and text out there from Blacks speaking up from their socialist oppressors.
They go Republicans hard, there has never been so much approval among blacks for that. Because they have seen what havoc these liberal policies have wreaked on black communities, especially in the last 10 years under Obama.
Famous figures like Kenye West are supporting Trump etc. I think this scares the Dems most, that they lose strangle hold on black representation, rapidly. For good reasons. And black communities are actually improving already noticeably from this change in mind.

So things are looking pretty good! Not for Dems of course. But for Blacks, which is great. And that's all that matters, if it's really about helping people. What policy effectively helps people.

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Old 07-12-2018, 08:43 AM   #1947
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I'm sure that has nothing to do with us locking up 33% of black males, totally fucking up their family structure, often for nonviolent drug offenses.

Drug Sentencing Disparities
In the 2015 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, about 17 million whites and 4 million African Americans reported having used an illicit drug within the last month.
African Americans and whites use drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of African Americans for drug charges is almost 6 times that of whites.
African Americans represent 12.5% of illicit drug users, but 29% of those arrested for drug offenses and 33% of those incarcerated in state facilities for drug offenses.

Or that a larger % of black people live in poverty.

Or that we have a country where black people are afraid of the police and don't trust them, so they can't utilize them well to prevent crime.

Maybe, just maybe, white people have had a large hand in forcing black people to create their own subculture and prevent them from integrating. We literally used to segregate schools and bathrooms, and this wasn't really that long ago. Even now, in much of the south things are very segregated.

I personally know that we deny black people legitimate work opportunities in the south, forcing them into illegal trades to make decent money. I once created a job for myself by talking to a person who was buying a bunch of houses and apartment complexes with millions of dollars. It is kind of involved to explain, but it was a tech kind of job and right before me a black woman had given him literally the same pitch and got rejected. She was very upset, and honestly rightfully so. They also later had to do a hand shake deal with the council members for St. Bernard to never rent to black people for any of their properties there including a large apartment complex. All of this is illegal, but also nobody gives a fuck or enforces these civil rights laws. Anyone in the south pretending otherwise is lying to themselves.

I'm not advocating for affirmative action. But I'm also not going to listen to a bunch of racist bullshit about low IQ and crime when I know first hand that we systematically oppress them and deny them advantages.
Oh of course, how silly of me to expect black people to have some sense of responsibility for themselves, no it must be because they go to jail that their culture is so fucked up. Oh wait what does one do to go to jail? Commit crime! So glad we can blame it all on whites! Systematic oppression!!!! Eats, that shit you're peddling in 2018? No one's buying it anymore, not even blacks.
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Oh of course, how silly of me to expect black people to have some sense of responsibility for themselves, no it must be because they go to jail that their culture is so fucked up. Oh wait what does one do to go to jail? Commit crime! So glad we can blame it all on whites! Systematic oppression!!!! Eats, that shit you're peddling in 2018? No one's buying it anymore, not even blacks.
Eats's's mentality is the exact one that has ruined blacks. Before the civil rights movement they were held to the same standards as whites and fared far better. I still just think the whole thing was communist subversion, using blacks as foils. They knew blacks would end up worse off, but the goal was to weaken america.

But muh KKK lynchings. Who gives a shit, they killed like 3000 people over 80 years for stealing cattle, rape, ect..and they weren't all black.


Pastor Manning on how this used to a be our country. Whites and Blacks. How did we think it was going to turn out when everyone else showed up. Don't mind the video title, its really not about that.
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So the discrimination I have personally witnessed didn't happen?

What are you even saying?

"Before the civil rights movement they were held to the same standards as whites and fared far better."

Holy shit dude, that is fucking ridiculous. I guess you think they loved having to sit in the back of the bus and being excluded.

This is like listening to the people who say they loved being slaves, and their master's treated them so well.
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What black Conservatives like Walter Williams in that second video are trying to explain is similar to what I have tried to explain to you earlier:

That it is not about whether discrimination exists. Of course there is discrimination. These black conservatives themselves experienced some of it.
But much more important is: what can it actually explain. How do you handle it. What do you make of it. What policies are actually effective.
The more you look at the facts, you find that discrimination in and of itself doesn't explain very much.
And that of all possible factors that determine your success in life today in the year 2018,
discrimination is among the least significant factors, even if it still exists.
Which is why obsessing about it, especially in legislation, is so ineffective.

There are people that despite discrimination succeeded greatly. Blacks that don't have the problems of other blacks.
Other minorities that experienced harsh discrimination in various forms, and yet ended up much better than the majority.
And there are even all kinds of whites that experience harsh discrimination of all sorts!
Because there is an infinite amount of reasons why people may not like you besides the colour of your skin.

And in fact, most hostilities, conflicts and wars are not waged between different races, but between members of the same race.
This is another of the fallacies of the left: they think racism/sexism is the most important problem of humankind,
and once you eliminated that with all your might, everyone is happy. But for example whites in Europe slaughtered each other brutally for centuries for all kinds of reason.
All people around the world discriminate and kill each other for all kinds of reason other than race, Most muslims are killed by other factions of muslims,
most blacks by other blacks, most asians by other asians, etc, for all kinds of reasons.

Joseph Stalin is on record for saying "The good thing about the Red Army is that it knows no racial hatred..." Mao and Stalin were the greatest mass murderers of all time.

If you use all your resources fighting racism and discrimination, you have exactly solved, 0.000001% of reasons why people hate each other.
And as it turns out, it's actually worse than that... because this sort of obsession about eradicating discrimination actually increases the resentments between people.
So instead of decreasing reasons for hostilities by even just 0.000001%, you actually increase it to 200%. That's what these liberal anti-discrimnation policies tend to do.
Because people overall just don't like being told what to do by the government. And whatever goodwill they might have had before is quickly gone completely then.
You can't force people to like you. You can only earn it with smart choices. And as it turns out, you really don't need _everyone_ to like you for finding success.
No one is liked by everyone. Most people are disliked by most other people. And it doesn't really matter. Other things are much more important.

And the more people succeed by a smarter approach to life, more effective conservative policies,
and build trust and respect by their accomplishments, despite the difficulties,
the less discrimination they experienced. It's a positive feedback loop.

Thus these black conservatives argue, if the total elimination of all possible discrimination and difficulties obviously is not required to succeed,
maybe the resources that are used to fight it should be invested in much more effective causes.
And they even tell you which ones exactly. Which ones worked for them personally.
Which ones worked for everyone who took the time to listen with an open mind.
For example, how exactly to improve practical education and leverage it on the market.
How to effectively communicate and negotiate with various people to reach your goals.

This is what black conservatives figured out for themselves. This is why they lead immensely successful lives.
Their key solutions come from free market business principles, not activism or legislation or socialism.

For example, when you try to build a start-up, you need investors. Turns out it is very difficult to find investors.
People are very suspicious about investing their precious money into your stupid idea.
99% of people will tell you, they don't like your idea. Or don't trust your ability.
99% will discriminate against you, and invest that money elsewhere.
That is what nearly every business start-up experiences at first.

And how business people deal with this difficulty, without state regulations, is how black conservatives deal with it, to great success.
And turns out, as they will tell you, if you approach life appropriately, you end up realizing that society is a lot less racist than you thought.

If only these conservative blacks were allowed to speak in black communities, to share their skills and knowledge, instead of being shut down and beaten up by liberal "activists".
But it matters not. Because crafty, determined and faithful as they are, they will eventually overcome and win even this, as they always do in life. They just go ahead and win. Fair and square.

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Some % of people will succeed in almost any situation.

I mean 99.9% of people who try to start a video game company fail, but here I am, road redemption made mid-6 figures in just the last 30 days. Even if you took everything away from me I would be rich again in a few years. That doesn't mean the current state of the game development industry is healthy.

I couldn't teach someone to be successful, not really. The best advice I could give is that it is probably a good time to buy bitcoins if you can sit on them for like 4 years, and if movie pass is still afloat in 3 months and isn't diluting the fuck out of their stock it is probably a good investment.

Any other advice I could give relies on the person being clever in a way that is tied to, but very different from, IQ...maybe. It is something that we can't quantify very well. Trump clearly has some amount of whatever it is too.

My real point is this isn't about the success stories. They are outliers. You could fuck my shit up pretty hard and I would still be able to make it again, but that doesn't mean the system is working.

This is about the normal people who just aren't going to be at the top 1% of performers ever, and making things more tolerable for them.

America is really not a great place for the average person compared to more socialist style EU countries. It keeps us at the forefront of innovation and industry, but there is a cost. I mean our healthcare system is fully fucked if your income is around 50k, and it has been that way for my entire life.

Like our education stats keep falling vs other countries right? But the truth is in terms of innovation and production it maybe doesn't matter much how well the bottom 80% of the population is educated, because their actual contribution of ideas that really move us forward/create value are very low. When you go into classes that aren't gifted/AP/whatever they are called, it has more in common with a holding cell than education. It just doesn't even matter what they are doing, which from what I have witnessed is just an ignorant teacher talking a lot of nonsense and feeling like a powerful authority figure.

idk, I guess I am kind of rambling.

Just to be clear I am not advocating affirmative action, but I am not going to listen to this bullshit about black people having low IQs and they don't feed their kids and other racist bullshit, when the system is absolutely unfair. White middle class people have low IQs, but they get enough help and aren't thrown in jail for minor bullshit, so they don't get fucked over as hard.

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This false narrative about race and gender was discredited again last week by researchers at Stanford and Harvard. Using census data, IRS tax returns and other data, they examined how race affects economic mobility — defined as the ability to do better or worse than one’s parents; to rise or fall from where one started. By and large they found that race is not determinative.

The New York Times, which partnered with the researchers, reported that “the gap between Hispanics and whites is narrower, and their incomes will converge within a couple of generations if mobility stays the same. Asian-Americans earn more than whites raised at the same income level, or about the same when first-generation immigrants are excluded.”

What’s more, the study found that black women “earn slightly more than white women” from comparable families. Black women also have higher college attendance rates than white men who come from comparable families.

Thus, for Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans and African-American women, skin color — which is the basis of racism — is not predictive of success.

Let that sink in.

These significant findings did not receive much attention in coverage of the study which focused on the one aspect that might support the false narrative of race: the stiff challenges faced by black men. The researchers found that “in 99 percent of neighborhoods in the United States, black boys earn less in adulthood than white boys who grow up in families with comparable income.”

The Times also reported “that black men raised in the top 1 percent — by millionaires — were as likely to be incarcerated as white men raised in households earning about $36,000.”

This has profound implications for black families, the researchers report: “The black-white income gap is entirely driven by differences in men’s, not women’s outcomes.”

The researchers do not say why black men experience such negative outcomes — as do American Indians, whose distinctive history and challenges are shamefully ignored in our national discourse. The answers are complex and almost certainly involve the legacy of racism and perceptions of black masculinity.

But this study, which dovetails with findings of a Brookings Institution study, suggests those are not the primary impediments to mobility. No doubt many black men are facing the same challenges encountered by most working class American men. The prevalence of single-parent families and the absence of fathers in black families — which has a far greater negative effect on boys than girls — is also important.

These problems start early. Echoing national statistics, the N&O reported that “last year, blacks made up 23.5 percent of Wake [County’s] 159,549 students, but they accounted for 61 percent of all suspensions in pre-K through fifth grade.”

Most of these suspensions were for “fighting or other physical aggression.”

It should also be stated that the vast majority of African-American students are not troublemakers. The challenge is not to paint all members of a group with a broad brush, but to identify and address those children with special needs — as the Wake school board wants to do by hiring more school psychologists, counselors and social workers.

There will be disparities. But this new study offers further evidence that race and gender matter less and less in modern America even though we talk about them more and more.

This reductionism — seeing complex challenges through the simple lens of identity politics — is false and divisive. We can do better.
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Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders 17 percent

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So the discrimination I have personally witnessed didn't happen?

What are you even saying?

"Before the civil rights movement they were held to the same standards as whites and fared far better."

Holy shit dude, that is fucking ridiculous. I guess you think they loved having to sit in the back of the bus and being excluded.

This is like listening to the people who say they loved being slaves, and their master's treated them so well.
You doing the (holy shit i literally cant even) bit doesn't mean shit to me dude.

I was locked up for a week and half for missing traffic court ONE time. The judge pulled a slick one, would not accept my proof of insurance and kept sending me out for more proof, 3 times, marking me as missing court each time, 4th time, he locked me up. He also, the same day was locking up people that were 15 mins late to court.

If i was black i could have cried about racism, but im white, so all i could do was deduce that the judge was a punk. My dad knew who he was, had run ins with him in the 70s, he said we should find his grave when he dies, piss on it. I got pulled over all the time when i was a punk kid in my POS Hondas Cops lied, say they smelled weed (i never smoked), would troll me into situations where they could pull me over, all kinds of shit. Now i look back and am glad they did it. I fit the profile back then. Its whatever...

Blacks don't want to live with whites, they want to subjugate them for what they perceive as some institutionalized oppression. Myself, i've given up hoping blacks as a whole are going to assimilate. I see how a good number of blacks look at me. They hate me. Badly. I used to blow it off, but now that im returning the favor its all like oh hell naw, you racial YT!!..... Fuck outta here. Get mad.

As far as sitting at the back of the bus, meh, whatever. I completely feel that whites have given blacks a seat at the table over the past 60 years. And they got up on it and twerked on it. Our standards are fucking garbage now because of all of this pandering and enabling. What more do you want whites to do? Maybe we do need to segregate again, some all black schools fought forced intergration to.


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You take this as a good sign, because your a totally not racist neo con'r and this a way for to virtue signal. but here is the deal. Less qualified people are getting admitted to college due to affirmative action and racial quotas.

Trump admin has recently removed the rules from the books. Look for these numbers to change over the next few years. Also, productivity and standards should improve. Yet again, another instance where Trump sits to your right, and im a racist. When are you going to register as a Democrat to fight racism?
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There is clear evidence of mental decline during exposure from 750-1000ppm
Yeah, that's why our workplaces allow up to 5,000 ppm and nuclear submarines allow up to 10,000 ppm and have no issues with their nuclear missiles and engines. Moron.

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also it is generally unpleasant for people to experience, but you think it sounds ok to make the entire world dumber,
It couldn't possibly be unpleasant. After all, you've already indicated that we should follow the science (though you've had godawful trouble doing so with simple links, lol), and the science has established a workplace rule (in the US and EU) of 5,000 ppm allowed. Derp.

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Nope. But you feel free to send some money to Elon Musk personally. That's cool!

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Chronic issues with a global CO2 atmospheric concentration currently at ~400 ppm, with workplaces scientifically allowed up to 5,000 ppm and nuclear weaponized submarines allowed up to 10,000 ppm?

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You take this as a good sign, because your a totally not racist neo con'r and this a way for to virtue signal. but here is the deal. Less qualified people are getting admitted to college due to affirmative action and racial quotas.
It seems the only thing you see is skin color. My comment was for Eat's post, as your usual racist idiocy is almost too stupid to comment on.

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Trump admin has recently removed the rules from the books. Look for these numbers to change over the next few years. Also, productivity and standards should improve. Yet again, another instance where Trump sits to your right, and im a racist. When are you going to register as a Democrat to fight racism?
Yes, the Trump administration has revoked the Obama-era race admissions guidelines. That's not based on wanting to hold non-whites down, it's simply about not wanting to be racist against those not on the skin-preference list.

This is not at all aligned with the racist lunacy that you spout.
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Old 07-13-2018, 04:26 PM   #1956
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I swear to god, one day we're going to find a picture of Blackzc and it will look like this:



Unlike some though I don't think everything that comes out of his mouth is drivel.
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Old 07-13-2018, 09:37 PM   #1957
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You doing the (holy shit i literally cant even) bit doesn't mean shit to me dude.

I was locked up for a week and half for missing traffic court ONE time. The judge pulled a slick one, would not accept my proof of insurance and kept sending me out for more proof, 3 times, marking me as missing court each time, 4th time, he locked me up. He also, the same day was locking up people that were 15 mins late to court.

If i was black i could have cried about racism, but im white, so all i could do was deduce that the judge was a punk. My dad knew who he was, had run ins with him in the 70s, he said we should find his grave when he dies, piss on it. I got pulled over all the time when i was a punk kid in my POS Hondas Cops lied, say they smelled weed (i never smoked), would troll me into situations where they could pull me over, all kinds of shit. Now i look back and am glad they did it. I fit the profile back then. Its whatever...

Blacks don't want to live with whites, they want to subjugate them for what they perceive as some institutionalized oppression. Myself, i've given up hoping blacks as a whole are going to assimilate. I see how a good number of blacks look at me. They hate me. Badly. I used to blow it off, but now that im returning the favor its all like oh hell naw, you racial YT!!..... Fuck outta here. Get mad.

As far as sitting at the back of the bus, meh, whatever. I completely feel that whites have given blacks a seat at the table over the past 60 years. And they got up on it and twerked on it. Our standards are fucking garbage now because of all of this pandering and enabling. What more do you want whites to do? Maybe we do need to segregate again, some all black schools fought forced intergration to.


Dim your fucking high beams. Petty fucks.




You take this as a good sign, because your a totally not racist neo con'r and this a way for to virtue signal. but here is the deal. Less qualified people are getting admitted to college due to affirmative action and racial quotas.

Trump admin has recently removed the rules from the books. Look for these numbers to change over the next few years. Also, productivity and standards should improve. Yet again, another instance where Trump sits to your right, and im a racist. When are you going to register as a Democrat to fight racism?
Yes you are a racist because you base shit off skin color alone. That's your issue. Much like Jizzy does just from the opposite perspective.
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:06 PM   #1958
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Another important core value of religions, is forgiveness. Making your peace with the world.
Forgiveness towards those who have wronged you, forgiveness to yourself, forgiveness to god and the world.
And God's forgiveness to you and everyone who has done wrong. This is God's mercy. This is the self-sacrifice of Jesus.

When the moral orientation of Marxism replaced traditional religion, it put the focus on vengeance instead forgiveness.
Just like it put a pathological emphasis on compassion over conscientiousness. The old order is the enemy.
And the new order, first of all is about the punishment of all those not compassionate enough.
It is not about whether this can work, not about help. It is about punishment.
Everyday, they are enthralled with all the injustices of the world.



There was a motto among socialists for a while. "Don't be evil."
Supposedly this was meant to solve the problem of why communism failed.
But with this motto already we were back in the fangs of how it all started.

Here are two other mottos from recent years that illustrate the problem:
"Everyone is secretly racist, and we have to point it all out."
"Make racists afraid again." -- a play on the "Make America great again"

If your definition of racism is so broad that everyone is racist,
and fear of punishment is the only effective way to stop them,
then you suddenly understand why marxism managed to murder so many people in the past.

"Don't be evil" easily slides into "Search and destroy all evil".
Because that's the point. The world is not good enough, because there is suffering.
And there is suffering, because there is evil. Hence you must eliminate evil to end suffering.
So who could possibly be responsible for this? We have to find and stop him.
Utopia can only arrive, until all evil is identified and ended.
But it never arrives, the search for evil never stops.
Until there is no man alive.

It ignores that struggle and suffering is integral part of everyone's life. You live, you suffer. For countless reasons.
Just suffering itself cannot be measure for evil, lest the world itself, life itself, must be evil.
Eventually you must search and destroy life. And that's exactly what communism looked like.

People are not perfect, and whether you want or not, you will always cause a grievance to someone.
You will always be guilty, just for living. On how many ants did you step when running through a forest?
How many people did you disappoint, when choosing another lover? What business did you ruin, when buying another product?
You live, you choose. And every choice is a discrimination against another. And every breath you take, harms something.
Even when you die, your last act is causing grievance to your friends and family.

It's not about eliminating all causes for struggle and suffering, but learning how to deal with setbacks in life.
Life is all about experiencing setbacks. You must learn how to deal with it and grow on it.
You have to become stronger and more skilled, so you can forgive.
So you don't have to murder humanity in vengeance.



The mixture of vengeance and compassion became so deadly, because you feel ever so more vengeful towards those who do not show enough compassion.
And those who are more successful, apparently do not share their success enough with those who are less successful and still struggling and suffering.
Would you not be equally successful otherwise? They evidently have not enough compassion, if you are not equals. They don't do enough to help others become equals.
How can you live content with yourself, how can you go about your own little life, while anywhere in the world, someone still struggles and suffers. -- It's utmost infuriating.
You are guilty of not having enough compassion and hence are worth of all vengeance, by those that struggle and suffer more than you.
And it is their compassion that after all makes them superior to you. Well not a real compassion. A real compassion would make them focus on what they can do themselves to help others.
They'd be too busy struggling to build a school in the Congo than thinking about you and why you have it too good, why you don't do enough to help them, help others, help them help others.
Rather it is vengeance disguised as compassion. How they can take you down, to help others. But it becomes eventually clear:
it really is not about helping others, it's about helping themselves first, by taking you down. The suffering of others is just ever more justification.
And this has proven to be the most deadly mechanism ever. The 20th century has shown, there seems to be no limit to the cruelty this moral can unleash.



Marxism is a religion that Satan himself would have invented to spite God. And maybe he did.
Satan's vengeance on God, because God is content, and ever so much more than Satan.
Satan is not evil. Satan is struggling and suffering. And justified to hate god and all his creation.

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Old 07-14-2018, 03:21 PM   #1959
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So who could possibly be responsible for this? We have to find and stop him.
Utopia can only arrive, until all evil is identified and ended.
But it never arrives, the search for evil never stops.
Until there is no man alive.
Good stuff, I don't know, or care if you're a conservative or a liberal but you definitely have a pulse on the fatal flaw of Marxism and this new push toward "democratic" socialism. The only thing I think you skipped over is how people get swept up in the righteous rage fighting for a cause they don't bother to really understand. They comply easily with the simple code of "it is evil because someone told me it is evil" and, secondly, how otherwise normal people are forced to go along to get along or be seen as "the evil" themselves; like something be rooted out and eliminated ala' some scene from Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

The part there reminded me of a (satire) story from the Babylon Bee "Triumph: This Man Whittled His Friends List Down To Only People He Agrees With And Now He’s The Only One Left".

I used to like The Onion but they've bought too much to the left. They have almost no balanced satirical "coverage". The Babylon Bee is much more equal opportunity.

The only thing I will still argue about is healthcare. I've seen too much abuse (from inside and out) in the US medical and pharma industry to feel like we can't do a hell of a lot better for our citizens.

Just having the government picking up the tab on what is currently in place with their bullshit "medicare for all" isn't the answer, which is what too many morons are suggesting. No wonder people are predicting trillions in bills. Nope, we need top to bottom re-imagining of the way we approach health "insurance" and care to fix this debacle.
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