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Old 02-26-2020, 04:56 PM   #6081
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Ok, take this test and we can see who is more partisan:

https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php
How does taking a test that show if you're a lib/neocon state that someone is more partisan. A person is going to be partisan to whatever they believe in.

I'm an Anarcho Capitalist (I know my utopia will never come true). The questions on that test can't pin me down. Once again, what does this test have to do with being a partisan???
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:16 PM   #6082
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Clearly, unless you fall within the same ideological area as Eats, you are a partisan!

lolololololol. He's so full of shit.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:21 PM   #6083
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Partisan - a strong supporter of a party, cause, or person.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:23 PM   #6084
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How does taking a test that show if you're a lib/neocon state that someone is more partisan. A person is going to be partisan to whatever they believe in.

I'm an Anarcho Capitalist (I know my utopia will never come true). The questions on that test can't pin me down. Once again, what does this test have to do with being a partisan???
Shouldn't you show up as like 100% liberalism then, basically in the bottom right corner.

But I mean you are right that your fringe views won't come up correctly.

"Our test is designed to cover the mainstream of political opinions as found within contemporary Western democracies. This means that our test has trouble accommodating extreme or niche opinions like anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-capitalism, orthodox socialism, and fascism. While there are political coordinates tests in existence that purport to cover this whole range of opinions within the relatively simple quadrants set up by our scheme, the practical consequences (such as plotting centrist democratic leaders a stone's throw from Hitler and Kim Jong Un) seem to confuse more than inform."
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:24 PM   #6085
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Partisan - a strong supporter of a party, cause, or person.
That's great, you opened a dictionary. Once again how does the stupid test you posted prove someone is more partisan than another?
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:26 PM   #6086
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Eatshit, try a full definition, lol. Merriam Webster: Partisan

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Definition of partisan (Entry 1 of 3)
1: a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person
especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance
political partisans who see only one side of the problem
Your little Internet 'test' is meaningless. You can have firm beliefs and still be open to information that alters your views, or you can be...a progressive, which most closely resembles "blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning." lol.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:27 PM   #6087
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Shouldn't you show up as like 100% liberalism then, basically in the bottom right corner.
No .
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:34 PM   #6088
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Clearly, unless you fall within the same ideological area as Eats, you are a partisan!

lolololololol. He's so full of shit.

Total boomer tude. Acting like his worldview is the default that everything is judged on.

I miss those days

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Partisan - a strong supporter of a party, cause, or person.
AKA, your not giving in like i want you to. So here is this label applied to you that implies your being unreasonable in your stance

The right wing doesn't really use this because its faggity as all hell. Now if they would just stop falling for it...
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:25 PM   #6089
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No .
"Right Liberals tend to argue that taxing an individual against his will in order to provide welfare benefits to others constitutes an act of coercion and thus a breach of individual liberty. They may support charity and aid for the poor, but they prefer it to be voluntary."

Does that not describe part of the beliefs of an Anarcho Capitalist?

I think you are confusing liberal with left wing when this is about liberalism(freedom) vs communitarian
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:46 PM   #6090
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Why do you think that? He [Trump] has never released his tax returns and no US banks will extend him a loan.
Donald Trump has had no trouble getting big loans at competitive rates
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Can you elaborate here. It was illegal and settled with fines, correct?
No, this is not correct. You continue to get basic facts wrong. Have you figured out what is incorrect about your statement here?

Can you elaborate on why Hillary would request a secure device from NSA if she was unaware of the security risk her actions posed? Or does your extreme partisan stance cause you to mentally shutdown over such a question?

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It is insane you guys act like I am the partisan here while you guys advocate for the end of democracy and want Trump to become king or something...
Ironic, as your parting shot proves my point. You've been a cheerleader for an obviously corrupt investigation that was an effort to reverse the results of a democratic election you didn't agree with.

You're foolish rebuttal to being called an extreme partisan is to... point to taking an online test? You truly are stupid and dishonest. Do you not understand why you're an extreme partisan? It's because you absolutely have one set of standards for Leftists and another for non-Leftists. You appear to still believe your conspiracy theory that Trump is an agent of Russia, despite the mountain of evidence showing the process of which this story was spun to be absolutely corrupt. To add insult to injury, while you're melting down over your absurd conspiracy about Trump, you're completely dismissive of likely Chinese interference into U.S. elections, incorrectly claiming it was simply solved with fines and is a settled matter. Lets put it simply: you'd react completely different to the same article if they swapped out the name Clinton for Trump.
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Old 02-26-2020, 10:39 PM   #6091
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Ok, take this test and we can see who is more partisan:

https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php
First shot - 8.3% Right, 2.8% Liberal. Frankly I'm surprised, I expected it to be much farther to the right. Conservative/Libertarian; about the closest recent president rating near me was Bill Clinton so I am about as to the center as it gets I guess though if they had asked more questions about personal civil liberties as they relate to the US Constitution (free speech, 2nd amendment, secure in your person and possessions against illegal search and seizure, right against self incrimination, jury trial, state rights vs federal, etc.) rather than business vs. government I think the answers might be a little different.

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Old 02-26-2020, 10:50 PM   #6092
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I scored exactly like Bill Clinton..

now where is my cigar and my unattractive secretary?
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It put me almost right in the middle of the red. Mostly for my want of a monarchy and capital punishment I bet haha.

Also, the questions could stand to be. revised. They are outdated.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:35 PM   #6094
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"Right Liberals tend to argue that taxing an individual against his will in order to provide welfare benefits to others constitutes an act of coercion and thus a breach of individual liberty. They may support charity and aid for the poor, but they prefer it to be voluntary."

Does that not describe part of the beliefs of an Anarcho Capitalist?

I think you are confusing liberal with left wing when this is about liberalism(freedom) vs communitarian
Yes, the anarcho-capitalist theory was influenced by Classical liberalism, but your dumb test would point and say I'm a conservative.

You still haven't answered my question.
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Pretty much exactly where Ronald Reagan was. Makes sense. Still your little test thing has zero to do with partisanship Eats and you know that.
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So perfectly on the money:

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Yes, the anarcho-capitalist theory was influenced by Classical liberalism, but your dumb test would point and say I'm a conservative.

You still haven't answered my question.
I don't think it is realistic to suggest that someone with extremely strong political beliefs isn't partisan.

There is an impossible amount of evidence to sift through on any particular political topic. Even something that seems simple like "Is immigration a net good or bad for society?" is an extremely complex question that doesn't have a simple answer. For anyone to have a very strong opinion about this topic necessarily requires deeply held partisan beliefs.

A lot of people here don't believe global warming is happening. Climate science is a complicated field with mountains of research behind it that would take a person a lifetime to become an expert in. While you can take a cursory overview of the field ultimately you have to place your trust in scientists or in a group of people whose funding largely can be traced back to the energy sector. Either way this does require some level of partisanship.
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A lot of people here don't believe global warming is happening. Climate science is a complicated field with mountains of research behind it that would take a person a lifetime to become an expert in. While you can take a cursory overview of the field ultimately you have to place your trust in scientists or in a group of people whose funding largely can be traced back to the energy sector. Either way this does require some level of partisanship.
This entire thing is such a load of partisan, brain-dead, progtard nonsense. You're an idiot for posting it.

Facts:

* Climate changes. The globe has warmed. It has been warmer in the distant past when humans weren't around, and correlating climate change with human behavior along with apocalyptic predictions is religion, not science.

* Climate science is complicated, and not all climate scientists agree that we are the cause nor even that the changing climate is problematic.

* Science is never settled. Much of the most firmly held scientific beliefs of the past have been proven not just completely wrong, but stupidly, egregiously so. When you appeal to the crowd you're betraying a stupidity in logically fallacious argumentation and lemming-like ignorance.

* The sources of your 'OMG we're doomed global warming WTF save us' are just as tainted with ideological bias as any fossil fuel producing supporter of opposing research.

Fuck off, partisan.
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I don't think it is realistic to suggest that someone with extremely strong political beliefs isn't partisan.

There is an impossible amount of evidence to sift through on any particular political topic. Even something that seems simple like "Is immigration a net good or bad for society?" is an extremely complex question that doesn't have a simple answer. For anyone to have a very strong opinion about this topic necessarily requires deeply held partisan beliefs.

A lot of people here don't believe global warming is happening. Climate science is a complicated field with mountains of research behind it that would take a person a lifetime to become an expert in. While you can take a cursory overview of the field ultimately you have to place your trust in scientists or in a group of people whose funding largely can be traced back to the energy sector. Either way this does require some level of partisanship.
Spin, spin, spin... HOW DOES THE TEST YOU ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO TAKE SHOW THEY ARE PARTISAN???. The only thing that test does is state that a person leans a certain way, and it's a very flawed test at that.
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