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Old 02-14-2017, 07:21 AM   #41
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Ben, you suckin hard on that cock boy. Settle down.

We need the competition.
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:10 AM   #42
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Ben, you suckin hard on that cock boy. Settle down.

We need the competition.
yes but we don't need people turning a blind eye to AMD's failings. AMD has not been a competitor in cpu/gpu in ages... and while I'm an nvida/intel fan I really hope for ryzen/vega to succeed because you're right, we need competition. But as this hype train come to full steam we need a heavy dose of reality when it comes to AMD and where they stand in the market.

AMD marketing has always been shit, mostly because they have nothing worth marketing. But we look at nvidia's marketing woes of late and I look at all this AMD stuff with a huge grain of salt when even official numbers can be so far from reality, even when demo'd live...
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:14 PM   #43
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True, it just seems many are prone to "defend" intel and Nvidia. I don't know why.

This is an exciting time.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:49 PM   #44
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True, it just seems many are prone to "defend" intel and Nvidia.
I'm defending reality, not a company.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:15 PM   #45
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I'm defending reality, not a company.
Your reality is about to change. Too many articles are saying these things now to deny it. Ryzen is going to be a big player this gen.
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #46
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...-release-date/
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Intel will release 8th-gen Coffee Lake chips this year—still at 14nm
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Intel's eighth-generation Core CPUs, codenamed Coffee Lake, will launch in the second half of 2017—far earlier than the 2018 launch period suggested by supposed product roadmaps leaked last year.

At its Investor Day event last week, Intel confirmed that its 8th-gen chips will once again be based on a 14nm process, much like Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake before it. The first Broadwell chips were released way back in 2014.

Intel officially abandoned its previous "Tick-Tock" strategy—with each "tick" representing a die shrink and each "tock" representing a new microarchitecture—in early 2016, and instead promised a three-phase model of Process, Architecture, Optimization. But now, with Coffee Lake, it seems Intel might have abandoned that new model, too. Technically, Kaby Lake is the "Optimization" to the "Architecture" of Skylake and the "Process" of Broadwell, which makes the early launch of Coffee Lake on 14nm something of an anomaly...
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Lol doubtful
I dunno, but if I was CEO of Intel I'd be worried. Ryzen is currently on a "tick" with this kind of performance while Coffee Lake will be a 2nd "tock".


What happens when AMD refines Ryzen?

I'd be worried because AMD is going to drive down profits.
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I dunno, but if I was CEO of Intel I'd be worried. Ryzen is currently on a "tick" with this kind of performance while Coffee Lake will be a 2nd "tock".


What happens when AMD refines Ryzen?

I'd be worried because AMD is going to drive down profits.
I'd rather wait and see real world performance, that and seeing if these parts cook themselves. AMD and ATI both don't have a stellar reputation when it comes to heat
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:07 PM   #51
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I'd rather wait and see real world performance, that and seeing if these parts cook themselves. AMD and ATI both don't have a stellar reputation when it comes to heat
14nm at no more than 4.0ghz. This is about cores man. CORES! AMD will give you 8 with Intel top of the line performance for half the price, if this is all to be believed.
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IBM was testing CPUs with 64 cores like 5+ years ago, why didn't that happen.

It all went into servers and never came to the desktop.
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IBM was testing CPUs with 64 cores like 5+ years ago, why didn't that happen.

It all went into servers and never came to the desktop.
What is Watson running on?

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Watson is made up of ninety IBM POWER 750 servers, 16 Terabytes of memory, and 4 Terabytes of clustered storage. Davidian sontinued, “This is enclosed in ten racks including the servers, networking, shared disk system, and cluster controllers. These ninety POWER 750 servers have four POWER7 processors, each with eight cores. IBM Watson has a total of 2880 POWER7 cores.”

While the POWER6 features a dual-core processor, each capable of two-way simultaneous multithreading (SMT), the IBM POWER 7 processor has up to eight cores, and four threads per core, for a total capacity of 32 simultaneous threads.
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The system is workload-optimized, integrating massively parallel POWER7 processors and built on IBM's DeepQA technology,[20] which it uses to generate hypotheses, gather massive evidence, and analyze data.[2] Watson employs a cluster of ninety IBM Power 750 servers, each of which uses a 3.5 GHz POWER7 eight-core processor, with four threads per core. In total, the system has 2,880 POWER7 processor threads and 16 terabytes of RAM.[20]

According to John Rennie, Watson can process 500 gigabytes, the equivalent of a million books, per second.[21] IBM's master inventor and senior consultant Tony Pearson estimated Watson's hardware cost at about three million dollars.[22] Its Linpack performance stands at 80 TeraFLOPs, which is about half as fast as the cut-off line for the Top 500 Supercomputers list.[23] According to Rennie, all content was stored in Watson's RAM for the Jeopardy game because data stored on hard drives would be too slow to be competitive with human Jeopardy champions.[21]
We probably won't get significantly more cores until 3D chip stacking begins, which apparently Intel is now considering, finally.
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True, it just seems many are prone to "defend" intel and Nvidia. I don't know why.

This is an exciting time.
I suspect because they want to defend their own purchases. With Intel and Nvidia each having a firm grip on their respective magnets, you're bound to find more users of those products online. Also, AMD has let people down pretty harshly in the past decade--So I would assume some disappointed users and former users of AMD components would join the din
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It isn't my reality, it is reality.

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Too many articles are saying these things now to deny it.
Viral marketing- they have been using this same shameful tactic for a while now. We saw exactly this with Bulldozer, then we saw exactly this leading up to the FuryX launch- catastrophic failures that weren't remotely close to being in the league of the hype their viral marketers created. We can go back over the hundreds of articles hyping those two products up before they launched if you'd like- epic failures.

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I'd expect it will have the same disruptive force behind it that Bulldozer did.
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AMD Ryzen motherboards teased from ASUS and GIGABYTE

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Can you believe we are so close to one of the most important launches from AMD in over half a decade with their next-gen Ryzen CPUs? As we get closer, we're learning more and more about them, and now we're getting some full frontal shots and details on the motherboards from ASUS and GIGABYTE.
Some choice-looking boards.





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Omfg, now I'm amped. And look at all those USB3.1 on the Asus board! 8!!! And it's ready for SLI, I am so freaking tempted now. Man.
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Still putting the pins on the CPU, I see. Any AM4 MATX or ITX boards available for view, yet? I didn't find any on Google and hope they are with the initial launch. I am really starting to feel in the mood for a new system build and want to move away from the Full Tower I currently utilize.
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:24 AM   #60
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You kids and your pin less CpU's! In my day we had to hand-crank our way through EverQuest!


No, nothing but ATX so far.
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