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Old 12-16-2017, 12:22 PM   #1
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Obsidian Says There Will Be No Microtransactions In Its Next RPG


Obsidian Entertainment has announced that there will be "no microtransactions, of any kind," in their upcoming RPG.

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We’re extremely excited about our upcoming RPG, and we know you are too. We wish we could tell you all about it right now… but we’re going to hold off until the time is right. What we did want to talk about was a question a lot of you have been raising: “Will this upcoming game feature any lootboxes or other microtransactions?”

The answer is simply: “no.” No microtransactions, of any kind, in our game.

We also wanted to say a word about our partnership with Private Division, our publisher on this title. Far from “pushing” us to put anything -- microtransactions or otherwise -- into our game, Private Division has been incredibly supportive of our vision, our creative freedom, and the process by which we work to make RPGs. They have been fantastic partners, and we are extremely excited to work with them through release, to put what we know is going to be an amazing game into as many hands as possible.

As always, thank you so much for your support. We know we couldn’t do what we do without our fans, and we want you to know that we put you guys first in every decision we make.
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Old 12-16-2017, 12:23 PM   #2
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:03 PM   #3
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Is this Kotor 3? Because I am not sure why you announce this otherwise. Unless they are afraid EA has tainted the whole industry. Which I guess could be the case.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:09 PM   #4
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Is this Kotor 3? Because I am not sure why you announce this otherwise. Unless they are afraid EA has tainted the whole industry. Which I guess could be the case.
Basically. Having read their stuff for a while now, this just seems like a little poke at the latest micro-disasters.

Of course, it makes me a bit worried since when it comes to Obsidian they tend to make great DLC that is more like an expansion and worth the money.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:13 PM   #5
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Is this Kotor 3? Because I am not sure why you announce this otherwise. Unless they are afraid EA has tainted the whole industry. Which I guess could be the case.
I doubt it's a KOTOR title because the publisher is Private Division, and EA, a publisher that has tainted the whole industry, has an exclusive on Star Wars right now.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:05 PM   #6
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Microtransactions can be done right. P2W is the real problem.

Path of Exile does microtransactions perfectly; 99% cosmetics, with additional character slots and storage offered as well. None of it is necessary to enjoy the game or succeed.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:28 PM   #7
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I doubt it's a KOTOR title because the publisher is Private Division, and EA, a publisher that has tainted the whole industry, has an exclusive on Star Wars right now.
I know EA has star wars,but if anybody has F U money it's Disney. They could get out of the deal if they really wanted to. Also they could argue EA was hurting the star wars brand with that loot box debacle.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:33 PM   #8
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Of all the companies which were on my list of ones I was worried about adding microtransactions to their games Obsidian was... wait, they aren't even on the list.

Seems like someone wanted a reason to get their name out in the news cycle or something. Was there anyone really worried that Obsidian was somehow going to add loot boxes to one of their games?
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:13 PM   #9
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perhaps they'll let you buy bundles of crafting materials instead.
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:36 AM   #10
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Microtransactions can be done right. P2W is the real problem.

Path of Exile does microtransactions perfectly; 99% cosmetics, with additional character slots and storage offered as well. None of it is necessary to enjoy the game or succeed.
disagree. cosmetic stuff who cares

additional storage and character slots sound to me like an advantage, though i have never played that game.

frankly microtransactions should just go away period
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Old 12-17-2017, 07:48 AM   #11
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disagree. cosmetic stuff who cares

additional storage and character slots sound to me like an advantage, though i have never played that game.

frankly microtransactions should just go away period
Many games don't need them. Game prices would need to go up overall all without them. Cosmetics and character slots don't really bother me but to each his own.

Vote with your money. If a game looks pay to win don't buy it. I'm a huge star wars nerd. I really want to play a new star wars game but EA screwed that up.
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Hmmm, this story seems to tie in with this one.
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I vaguely remember Obsidian pitching a scifi rpg set in space to Bethesda some years back, had a vertical slice completed, but it was ultimately turned down. KOTOR 2 and New Vegas are incredible despite their pathetic launches. Hoping for a return to scifi because their super liberal Baldur's Gate spiritual successor Pillars of Eternity, the South Park game, and Alpha Protocol never appealed to me. Mass Effect's total collapse left a void in the market.

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Old 12-17-2017, 09:54 AM   #14
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Hmmm, this story seems to tie in with this one.
Yeah, I actually linked to it in the OP. And that's why people were asking questions about microtransactions. Parent company Take-Two is well known for making a fortune off of the Shark Cards in Rockstar's GTA V.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:58 AM   #15
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Microtransactions can be done right. P2W is the real problem.

Path of Exile does microtransactions perfectly; 99% cosmetics, with additional character slots and storage offered as well. None of it is necessary to enjoy the game or succeed.
No I totally disagree in a paid for title. For me personally if it's loot boxes it's irrelevant if its P2W or just skins (including F2P).. outside of mature games it's still peddling gambling mechanics to minors. The people running these companies really have no morals and probably don't even see what they are doing wrong.. hey I'm making money on the back of normalising gambling to kids, but I'm getting rich so fuck em.

As you basically say Terran your now normalised to MTs for cosmetics and presumably cut content as paid DLC... so overall there is some "result" for the games industry.. whatever they do they can point and say well it's not SWBF2 levels of bullshit.. now give me fkin money.
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No I totally disagree in a paid for title.
I didn't reference any support for 'paid' titles including microtransactions. The game I referenced as doing it right is FREE and you could play it for FREE and enjoy ALL of the content available for FREE with the exception of the ability to cosmetically change your appearance and store a pile more crap than the pile they allow you to store for FREE.

You know what that normalizes? PAYING for a game, whether through an up-front payment OR through smaller in-game transactions in a FREE title that allow the developer/publisher to actually earn a living.

I have no problem at all with how GGG handles the finances of Path of Exile, and anybody that does is a freeloading moron, lol. And if you don't want to pay for $DLC, you should ALL be doing what I have done for a decade, and that's to buy a GotYE with DLC included. If they don't offer one, like EA with Mass Effect, don't buy it.
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No I totally disagree in a paid for title. For me personally if it's loot boxes it's irrelevant if its P2W or just skins (including F2P).. outside of mature games it's still peddling gambling mechanics to minors. The people running these companies really have no morals and probably don't even see what they are doing wrong.. hey I'm making money on the back of normalising gambling to kids, but I'm getting rich so fuck em.
Interesting comment, I hadn't looked at it this way. I don't have any kind of moral issue with people gambling, but including it into games sucks for many reasons. I go out of my way to buy games without micro transactions (especially mobile). I could argue about how grey games have been in regards to this (I mean what is diablo other than a random loot generator?), but it doesn't really matter.

I am curious how long before games companies start including bitcoin (or whatever cryptocurrency is appropriate, probably something memory hard like eth or xmr) mining code. Websites are already doing it.
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I think Diablo introduces chance but it's not asking you to pay money each time for that chance. So I'd say that loot boxes you pay for are normalising "staking" real money for a reward... gambling in all but the legal definition IMO.

I think we got our wires crossed Terran, I generally agree with you that free means MTs of some kind.. but I don't think loot boxes have a place outside of Adult rated games. Anyway I find most FTP games with MTs impact the design too much for me to enjoy them so I never play them.

As is apparent I have serious contempt for companies and their executives that implement loot boxes & especially those aiming them at kids.. I don't understand the utter disregard for the potential damage they are doing.. all to justify a bonus payment or remuneration increase... I think some of these people need to reset their moral compasses.
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Yeah, I actually linked to it in the OP. And that's why people were asking questions about microtransactions. Parent company Take-Two is well known for making a fortune off of the Shark Cards in Rockstar's GTA V.
Right on !
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I am curious how long before games companies start including bitcoin (or whatever cryptocurrency is appropriate, probably something memory hard like eth or xmr) mining code. Websites are already doing it.
Really? Which sites?

A friend plays a game, Armored Warfare I think (some sort of tank game) made by My.com, which never turns off their launcher from the peer-to-peer node. The launcher seeds to the torrent network regardless of if you're playing or not. And it uses your full available bandwidth. When you "close" it the thing just minimizes to the taskbar tray.

It's not too far from a leap from sneaking seeding for peer-to-peer torrenting to using your machine in their farming network.
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