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Old 02-15-2017, 02:01 PM   #1
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Scarlett Johansson Explains the Ghost in the Shell Suit


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While the creators of the Ghost in the Shell movie are trying their best to stay authentic to the source material, there's one thing that had to change: in the original anime, the Major, now played by Scarlett Johansson, spends a lot of time more or less naked. Robot naked admittedly, but still: an issue.

“As soon as I saw [the anime], I was like, ‘Obviously I’m not naked. We’ve all agreed I’m not naked, right?’” Scarlett Johansson tells Total Film in this month's issue. As a result the Major now wears a tight fitting catsuit suit that mirrors the feel of the original look, without the obvious problems that would involve.

And, on Johansson's catsuit rankings, the Ghost in the Shell outfit places higher than her Black Widow option. “This suit’s easier to wear and easier to fight in than Black Widow’s,” she says. “The Black Widow suit is a neoprene fabric, and at times it’s been leather – which was awful. This is a silicone-based material, so you could get shredded in it, but just your suit, not your actual body. I burned through a lot of them. It was like, ‘There’s another one!’”
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Good, the nudity in the opening of GITS I always considered an extraneous and counter-intuitive fan-service, which while titillating was out of place for the subject. I'm not familiar enough with the manga to say if it's representative of the source material either, but I'm guessing it's not.

From a pure tech point of view, a suit makes more sense to make thermoptic camouflage possible than going naked, unless you assume the camou is somehow built into her robot chassis, which seems unlikely.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:02 PM   #4
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Good, the nudity in the opening of GITS I always considered an extraneous and counter-intuitive fan-service, which while titillating was out of place for the subject. I'm not familiar enough with the manga to say if it's representative of the source material either, but I'm guessing it's not.
It's highly indicative of the source material. The creator and lead artist, Masamune Shirow, is also a pornographer who favors lactation and bestiality.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:07 PM   #5
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In the manga she has lesbian sex. It is totally in the scope of the manga to feature the nudity. Her nudity was used many times in the film (opening assault, opening credits as her body is being built, the middle where she beats up the hacker, the end of the film where she goes back into thermo to attack the tank, the puppet master being nude throughout). Nudity is par for the course of most adult Japanese anime, so it feels odd having it removed.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:41 PM   #6
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Good, the nudity in the opening of GITS I always considered an extraneous and counter-intuitive fan-service, which while titillating was out of place for the subject. I'm not familiar enough with the manga to say if it's representative of the source material either, but I'm guessing it's not.

From a pure tech point of view, a suit makes more sense to make thermoptic camouflage possible than going naked, unless you assume the camou is somehow built into her robot chassis, which seems unlikely.
from a robot wanting to feel human standpoint it makes sense that she would want to experience and try to discern what makes people tick, like why being naked is an issue... this is something a robot would never understand on it's own.

as for the camo, I'm guessing they're going with the idea that synthetic fabrics reflect light differently (look at images of IR and cammo). At least that's the only thing I could come up with other than it's anime and all girls need to be nude whenever possible.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:36 PM   #7
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It still feels out of place within the context of the film itself. It's like Oshii consciously used it as a hook in the opening, and through the rest of the film while there is nudity it's no about titillation, it's just a thing that happens. But maybe that's just my perception. I did re-watch the film a few days ago so it's pretty fresh in memory.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:50 PM   #8
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I'll live with the decision, really looking forward to this. I would definitely prefer the nudity though. I'm not a fan of kiddy anime and its nice that they are bringing this to life as adult as they can.
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Having seen her nude, I'm very OK with there being a suit for this.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:06 PM   #10
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Having seen her nude, I'm very OK with there being a suit for this.
Bahaha! *High five*
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:14 PM   #11
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The Major doesn't give a fuck about nudity because it's not her body. She doesn't HAVE one.

She uses her shell and its rockin tits to exploit and addle people as we meatbags are susceptible to hot scantily-clad chicks.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:24 PM   #12
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Would be an instant forever classic if she was naturally naked the entire time, but the rating would probably be NC-17. Of course it would never happen due to fear of lost ticket sales.
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In both seasons of Stand Alone Complex all members of the section 9 team were capable of cloaking whilst dressed. I assumed that would be canon, but admittedly don't know where the SACs sit in the GITS time line.
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It's highly indicative of the source material. The creator and lead artist, Masamune Shirow, is also a pornographer who favors lactation and bestiality.
You just blew my mind.

I had known Shirow from his, other, exploits, and while i didn't get too far into the manga series, it seemed familiar to me.

Glad to have that tidbid tied up.
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In both seasons of Stand Alone Complex all members of the section 9 team were capable of cloaking whilst dressed. I assumed that would be canon, but admittedly don't know where the SACs sit in the GITS time line.
The guy they are chasing in the film is also cloaks fully clothed. There is no explanation in the film why she gets nude and its been decades since I read the manga, so I really can't tell you the explanation. Likely because they could get away with it. Which isn't a bad explanation.
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She wasn't nude in the anime either. Not for the camo...it was always a suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSyV9E2ib2s

@1:20 for instance.

Extremely tight fitting suit that matched her skin tone closely, but not exactly.

At least, that's how I remember it.
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Wow Skunk, I don't know what your preferences are but I find her quite easy on the eyes.

Also, she had no problem being buck-nekkid in Under the Skin, I don't know why she would have an issue here, especially since it would be more authentic.

I will never understand the people that love violence but abhor female nipples. Personally I like both, but if I were to draw a line it would be at violence.
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She wasn't nude in the anime either. Not for the camo...it was always a suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSyV9E2ib2s

@1:20 for instance.

Extremely tight fitting suit that matched her skin tone closely, but not exactly.

At least, that's how I remember it.
So, yes, she is not technically nude - which is why she needs the visor with the additional material in order to go full thermoptic - but the suit doesn't leave anything to the imagine with clearly defined nipples. It is really semantics that she is not nude with such an outfit.
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Actually, I would need to watch the film again and see if she even had areolas. Because if she doesn't, then there is no difference between her camo suit and her nude body other than color tone.
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Actually, I would need to watch the film again and see if she even had areolas. Because if she doesn't, then there is no difference between her camo suit and her nude body other than color tone.
I can answer right quick, let's see here...

Nipples, no areola.




Nipple edge at the top, no areola. But is it just because they didn't want to bother painting it or is that intended. Much the rest of the film they purposefully try to avoid drawing the nipples.




This shot implies she's wearing a suit, shininess on shoulders and the neckline.




Neckline does not appear later in scuba scene. It's not part of her frame.




This is a long shot, they would've taken their time to get details right here. And there it is, full areola.




This clinches it, you see the neck-line thing is back, shinyness all over, and where her arm is breaking, her skin under the broken transparent-suit, which she had used moment before:



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