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Old 02-02-2018, 10:12 AM   #1
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House Intelligence Memo Released


The Washington Examiner has some early details.

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The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justice Department in the Trump-Russia investigation. Here are some key points:
  • The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.
  • Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.
  • The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.
  • DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
The FBI and Justice Department mounted a monthslong effort to keep the information outlined in the memo out of the House Intelligence Committee's hands. Only the threat of contempt charges and other forms of pressure forced the FBI and Justice to give up the material.

Once Intelligence Committee leaders and staff compiled some of that information into the memo, the FBI and Justice Department, supported by Capitol Hill Democrats, mounted a ferocious campaign of opposition, saying release of the memo would endanger national security and the rule of law.

But Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes never wavered in his determination to make the information available to the public. President Trump agreed, and, as required by House rules, gave his approval for release.

Finally, the memo released today does not represent the sum total of what House investigators have learned in their review of the FBI and Justice Department Trump-Russia investigation. That means the fight over the memo could be replayed in the future when the Intelligence Committee decides to release more information.
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:26 AM   #2
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And THERE YOU HAVE IT folks...exactly what we all knew and exactly why the Dems and their ideological warriors in the DOJ and FBI did NOT want this memo released.

It proves once and for all that the entire 'Russian collusion' storyline is a politcial hit job built on a pile of bullshit.

FUCK YOU DEMS. You did it with the IRS, you did it with the FBI and DOJ. FUCK YOU for politicizing apolitical institutions and for denying you ever even did it when the evidence is obvious and everywhere. War. You want war? Let's go then.
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:36 AM   #3
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Former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino lays his theory out on the scandal...

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Old 02-02-2018, 10:39 AM   #4
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I'm surprised it took so much to get this memo released. What with all the leaking that happens in the White House, how come this memo didn't hit the press weeks ago? Oh right, it isn't favorable to the left and the right does things the legal way.

The Democratic party is corrupt as hell. They have been actively trying to undermine the legitimate president of the US. How people can continue to defend these actions is beyond me.

EDIT: I say left/right, but in reality there are members of both parties to blame. The establishment is fighting tooth and nail to maintain their foothold, and they will burn the country down to keep it if they have to.
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:51 AM   #5
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link to the memo itself

https://www.scribd.com/document/3705...oad&from_embed
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:29 AM   #6
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Spy Warrant Relied On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:53 AM   #7
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Isn't that a real hoot? In the FISA court the Obama FBI/DOJ relied upon news reports (based on GPS dossier) to validate the dossier, and the dossier (created by partisan hacks who hated Trump) to validate their snooping requests.

Partisan fuckers.
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Old 02-02-2018, 12:14 PM   #8
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I'm not excusing anything in the memo. I just think there is a problem with a memo complaining about the problems of bias and partisanship coming from a biased and partisan source that turns a blind eye to everything the Trump administration does. In other words, I am sure there are problems with the investigation into Russia and the Trumps. I am sure there are problems with the investigators. But what is the proper way to objectively compare those problems with the Intelligence Committee's own investigation into these issues and then to take their claims of "bias" seriously, as if this memo were somehow objective. My preference would be for everybody to first call for a restoration of objectivity and then address all of these issues of bias according to the same standard. The way they are doing it now is an embarrassment.
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Old 02-02-2018, 12:47 PM   #9
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I'm not excusing anything in the memo.
And then you proceed to make excuses.

The FBI, DOJ, and Dems have all seen the memo, and NONE of the FACTS asserted in it are in dispute.

This entire shit show is an extension of what Obama did with the IRS...weaponize the federal government against your political opponents. This goes so far beyond even the wet fever dreams of Nixon it's astonishing. It is truly one of the worst, most constitutionally devastating abuses of power in our nation's history.

The problem for Dems and their GOPe uniparty supporters (and there are plenty of members of the big government, screw the people, uniparty in DC) is you can't figure out how to make the immensely disturbing facts go away. You vacillate from "That's it?" to "Constitutional crisis" to "lies" to "state secrets" to "unimportant nothing" and back again.

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I'm not excusing anything in the memo. I just think there is a problem with a memo complaining about the problems of bias and partisanship coming from a biased and partisan source that turns a blind eye to everything the Trump administration does. In other words, I am sure there are problems with the investigation into Russia and the Trumps. I am sure there are problems with the investigators. But what is the proper way to objectively compare those problems with the Intelligence Committee's own investigation into these issues and then to take their claims of "bias" seriously, as if this memo were somehow objective. My preference would be for everybody to first call for a restoration of objectivity and then address all of these issues of bias according to the same standard. The way they are doing it now is an embarrassment.
A restoration of objectivity? Come on, you're aware that these are politicians on this committee. Here is the list: Intel Committee List.

The issues raised from the memo go far beyond the Trump case. What is an embarrassment is the use of the FBI, the DOJ, the FISC, etc. as political tools by the very people crying authoritarianism and warning about Trump abusing power.
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A restoration of objectivity? Come on, you're aware that these are politicians on this committee. Here is the list: Intel Committee List.

The issues raised from the memo go far beyond the Trump case. What is an embarrassment is the use of the FBI, the DOJ, the FISC, etc. as political tools by the very people crying authoritarianism and warning about Trump abusing power.
That's the rub isn't it Ven? They have no issue when Obama weaponizes the IRS or other agencies, that's fine, they don't find it illegal even though it absofuckinglutely is. But call them to task on their fake Russia narrative they've been running for a year now and show those issues to the American People and now they're up in arms about politicizing things? Come the fuck on.
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:46 AM   #12
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And then you proceed to make excuses.
No he didn't you, quit lying and putting words in his mouth you stupid fucking asshole. He goes on to talk about bias on both sides and bringing back objectivity. Ignoring anything he had to say you then went on to spew more of your bullshit and not having anything to counter what you were supposedly supposed to be fucking replying too, you fucking weirdo asshat who pretends to be other fucking people and talk shit since you don't have any fucking balls.

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The FBI, DOJ, and Dems have all seen the memo, and NONE of the FACTS asserted in it are in dispute.
See what I mean? Knowing that THIS exists, you still lie when it does the very THING you said didn't exist. I can only guess you are hoping no one fact checks your dumb ass statements beyond Breitbart and fucking Fox.

You people think you are having a conversation when it's really just going to be 5 dipshits confirming their own opinions and bias among themselves and then trolling ANY counter argument presented by doing EXACTLY what I mentioned in my first fucking sentences. If you aren't sucking Trumps flaccid cock then you are wrong, end of story, GTFO... God some of you people are gluttons for getting trolled, I mean do you like it or something? Why do you even engage in political discussions with these fools?

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See what I mean? Knowing that THIS exists, you still lie when it does the very THING you said didn't exist. I can only guess you are hoping no one fact checks your dumb ass statements beyond Breitbart and fucking Fox.

You people think you are having a conversation when it's really just going to be 5 dipshits confirming their own opinions and bias among themselves and then trolling ANY counter argument presented by doing EXACTLY what I mentioned in my first fucking sentences. If you aren't sucking Trumps flaccid cock then you are wrong, end of story, GTFO... God some of you people are gluttons for getting trolled, I mean do you like it or something? Why do you even engage in political discussions with these fools?
Okay, you don't even understand what the Democrat's claim is. Okay. What the Democrat's are claiming isn't that what the Republican's released wasn't true, it was that the classified information they released was cherry picked and therefore misrepresents the picture. So, no, Terran isn't incorrect.
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I hate talking politics on game forums but what makes me laugh is the democrats (and or top FBI agents) have been leaking anything they consider bad news for Trump from the Mueller investigation for the past year now but releasing this vetted memo is going to RUIN OUR DEMOCRACY!!!! Politicians are so full of shit, all of them not just one side. It is really one of the reasons I wanted Trump and what he promised to win out over more of the same with Hillary. I never envisioned how fucked up this would make everyone act especially these politicians who had an outsider piss into their pond.
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Trump is just going to steamroll the Dems in 2020. They might as well not show up.
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I find it humorous how some of the very people who supposedly had access to the memo claimed the classified information was too dangerous to declassify are now claiming it’s nothing at all.
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The memo, with evidence regarding FISA abuses by government agencies, is considered nothing. It was argued against because it could put the government in a bad light.

Meanwhile the Russia investigation, with zero evidence regarding collusion and which would also put the government in a bad light, is still considered a hot item that must be pursued.

Liberal logic at it's finest.
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You can't call something journalism that isn't factual.You also can't make it up as you go along and claim it's reality. This is just the tip of the iceburg, this memo, the swamp draining is coming. I find it amazing how rattled you precious little snowflakes are. It's truly great.
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You can't call something journalism that isn't factual.You also can't make it up as you go along and claim it's reality. This is just the tip of the iceburg, this memo, the swamp draining is coming. I find it amazing how rattled you precious little snowflakes are. It's truly great.
So a pulitzer prize winning journalist is less factual than one of your racist, bigoted, sexist favs and Breitbart? God you are a stupid fucking moron.
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