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Old 02-06-2018, 12:20 PM   #61
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Is that in ANY way what I said?
If the police illegally raid your home and find drugs, guess what? You still had drugs. Whether the raid was illegal is a matter for the courts to decide, and how that factors into your potential criminal trial is a matter for the courts to decide. BUT YOU STILL HAD DRUGS.
I think it is interesting how everyone is trying to come up with some example or analogy to speculate on how this stupid dossier relates to Trump.

I think that whatever happens this week with the democratic rebuttal memo it is a win for Trump in that people arguing futilely along partisans lines about the dossier, the memo, the investigation, etc just buys him time to do whatever it is he wants to do and distracts from the fact that we are once again days from a shut down and other more substantive problems.

The more we squabble about nonsense, the fewer people notice that we just added triple overtime to the fleecing of the USA by the uber rich.
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I think it is interesting how everyone is trying to come up with some example or analogy to speculate on how this stupid dossier relates to Trump.

I think that whatever happens this week with the democratic rebuttal memo it is a win for Trump in that people arguing futilely along partisans lines about the dossier, the memo, the investigation, etc just buys him time to do whatever it is he wants to do and distracts from the fact that we are once again days from a shut down and other more substantive problems.

The more we squabble about nonsense, the fewer people notice that we just added triple overtime to the fleecing of the USA by the uber rich.
Again who's squabbling? People are stating facts to you and your ilk and you're trying to hand wave away Obama weaponizing the government against conservatives. read that last line again a few times and let it sink in. That is illegal.
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...the fewer people notice that we just added triple overtime to the fleecing of the USA by the uber rich.
Thank GOD for the Dems in NY, CA, and other blue states who are working hard at states laws meant to allow rich folks to shelter more of their income from federal tax levies because nothing says 'fleecing' like a rich person paying federal taxes, right?

OMFG you people. LOLOL.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:06 PM   #64
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There is, was, and will not be any collusion between Trump and the Russians.
YOU.

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THAT.


This is where you tip your hand and fully admit that you’re not talking about reality, you’re talking about reality as you WISH it was. And that’s a common thread through MOST of what you post.

You’re like a wife who’s husband just got arrested saying, “my husband didn’t do anything wrong! He’s a perfect husband and father!’ Only to find out that he has a woman trapped in his shed.

You don’t KNOW If there was any collusion. The only people who would have any basis to say that in the entire world right now is Mueller and his investigators. They have information that none of us have.

And unless you’ve forgotten, Trumps campaign manager has already been arrested for TREASON, and Michael Flynn is also already in the process. So it’s not like this is wild speculation with no basis for it.

We MAY find out that there was no collusion. But the only rational position to have as an American right now is to want clarity for a LOT of suspicious, weird behavior toward a country that no serious person disbelieves tampered with our presidential election.

“Wouldn’t it be great if we got along better with Russia”, being said while Russia is simultaneously interfering with Democracy is ITSELF a problematic scenario for any actual American.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:19 PM   #65
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I think it is interesting how everyone is trying to come up with some example or analogy to speculate on how this stupid dossier relates to Trump.

I think that whatever happens this week with the democratic rebuttal memo it is a win for Trump in that people arguing futilely along partisans lines about the dossier, the memo, the investigation, etc just buys him time to do whatever it is he wants to do and distracts from the fact that we are once again days from a shut down and other more substantive problems.

The more we squabble about nonsense, the fewer people notice that we just added triple overtime to the fleecing of the USA by the uber rich.
Treason is no small matter.

The stability of our electoral process is fundamentally the most sacred institution to democracy.

I’ve literally seen Trump defenders say, “so what if Russia interfered with our elections? We interfere with other countries elections all the time.” I’m not saying Trump rigged the election, but that is SUCH an appalling statement to come out of the mouth of any American that it’s as astonishing as it is nauseating. They feel this way, of course, because it behooves their “team” to not look too deeply into an outcome that they like. That’s gross.

Russia is is winning the cyber Cold War with the USA, basically, because Americans are too bloated and sleepy to care.

If Trump has nothing to do with Russia and it’s attacks on the US, GREAT. But he’s giving us very little reason to think that.
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Treason is no small matter.

The stability of our electoral process is fundamentally the most sacred institution to democracy.

I’ve literally seen Trump defenders say, “so what if Russia interfered with our elections? We interfere with other countries elections all the time.” I’m not saying Trump rigged the election, but that is SUCH an appalling statement to come out of the mouth of any American that it’s as astonishing as it is nauseating. They feel this way, of course, because it behooves their “team” to not look too deeply into an outcome that they like. That’s gross.

Russia is is winning the cyber Cold War with the USA, basically, because Americans are too bloated and sleepy to care.

If Trump has nothing to do with Russia and it’s attacks on the US, GREAT. But he’s giving us very little reason to think that.
Except those on the left have zero proof of it, while we do have actual proof and guilt, of Obama's administration targeting conservatives and illegally using the Fisa courts. It's interesting that those on the left like yourself want to continue a witch hunt on Trump, where there's ample proof 100% of corruption in the Obama administration that you all just want to pretend away.
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Except those on the left have zero proof of it
Again, what part of this don’t you understand? An investigation is the process of FINDING proof, or not. NOBODY has proof of a Trump colluding with Russia. All they have is more than ample suspicious activities to warrant an investigation. An investigation that has ALREADY LED TO ARRESTS. So to say what is or is not, at this point, is bullshit pouring out of ones mouth. Maybe Trump is innocent. Maybe he’s guilty. To say one way or the other is like when a dogpile of football players are piled on a fumble. Nobody has any information about what the call should be, but the team-mates on the field, nowhere near the pile, are all Pointing toward their opponents endzone and claiming the ball for their side.
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Again, what part of this don’t you understand? An investigation is the process of FINDING proof, or not. NOBODY has proof of a Trump colluding with Russia. All they have is more than ample suspicious activities to warrant an investigation. An investigation that has ALREADY LED TO ARRESTS. So to say what is or is not, at this point, is bullshit pouring out of ones mouth. Maybe Trump is innocent. Maybe he’s guilty. To say one way or the other is like when a dogpile of football players are piled on a fumble. Nobody has any information about what the call should be, but the team-mates on the field, nowhere near the pile, are all Pointing toward their opponents endzone and claiming the ball for their side.
It's been over a year, never mind that you have liberals in the know calling it a nothing burger. Hillary illegally handled classified information purposely. Obama's IRS got caught targeting conservatives Where's the outrage? Crimes that we know happened, have proof of, and idiots like you don't care. But you insist this phony collusion shit has to continue. He'll we have more proof of Hillary collusion with Russia than Trump. Yet no outrage or statement of "threats to our democracy" from partisan hacks like yourself.

Remember kids it's only a crime when it's conservatives.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:33 PM   #69
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Again, what part of this don’t you understand? An investigation is the process of FINDING proof, or not. NOBODY has proof of a Trump colluding with Russia. All they have is more than ample suspicious activities to warrant an investigation.
There is more evidence that Clinton and Obama were involved in election rigging then there is that Trump did. Yet the investigation is all about Trump. That's the main issue that people are upset about. This is about as biased as it gets.

Quite frankly, everybody should be raising eyebrows about this. They claim there is no "deep-state". Yet, the first non-career politicization takes the highest office, and the government is doing it's level best to try and take him down. And several giants of main stream media are enthusiastically helping them. There was nothing wrong with Trump prior to his running for office. Now, suddenly, there is everything wrong with him? Really?

Something is not right here...
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There was nothing wrong with Trump prior to his running for office.
Are you serious? Have you been to Atlantic City lately? Visited with any of the contractors and investors he stiffed, graduated with a valuable degree from Trump University, had your pussy grabbed, lived in a country with a non- Kenyan president who was being undermined by birther trolls? For years he fired almost every person who went on his tv show!!!!!! All of this was prior to running for office.
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You don’t KNOW If there was any collusion.
I also don't know if you're a pedophile. Or Elvis. Or an alien lovechild of Bill Clinton from the 90s. I know all of those are incorrect/untrue, as do all of the Democrats and Republicans in political office regarding Trump and this fever dream of Russian collusion.

We do know, however, that HILLARY and the DEMS actually DID COLLUDE with Russia in the gathering and disseminating of a completely unverified pile of bullshit smashed together into a 'dossier' that was then presented as verified to a FISA court on numerous occasions for numerous warrants.

So...there's that reality to consider.
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Are you serious? Have you been to Atlantic City lately? Visited with any of the contractors and investors he stiffed, graduated with a valuable degree from Trump University, had your pussy grabbed, lived in a country with a non- Kenyan president who was being undermined by birther trolls? For years he fired almost every person who went on his tv show!!!!!! All of this was prior to running for office.
Obozo ran guns to mexico, let 4 Americans die among many others, has incited racial tensions worse than the country has seen in 50 fucking years along with ILLEGALLY removing a country's sovereign leader (Libya) ILLEGALLY used the FISA courts while spouting pretty much how much he hates America his entire time in office. and you're worried bout "pussy grabbing". I think your priorities are a bit messed up to say the least.

If those on the left like yourself hate America so much why do you stay? Please answer that too. Because I doubt you will.
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There is more evidence that Clinton and Obama were involved in election rigging then there is that Trump did. Yet the investigation is all about Trump. That's the main issue that people are upset about. This is about as biased as it gets.

Quite frankly, everybody should be raising eyebrows about this. They claim there is no "deep-state". Yet, the first non-career politicization takes the highest office, and the government is doing it's level best to try and take him down. And several giants of main stream media are enthusiastically helping them. There was nothing wrong with Trump prior to his running for office. Now, suddenly, there is everything wrong with him? Really?

Something is not right here...
This is absolute nonsense.

This isn’t Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Donald Trump is a guy who was the poster child of American excess and abandonment of a moral compass. There’s a reason why he was a regular on the Howard Sterm show. There is a reason why he cameos in porn movies. There is a reason why he was the archetype for Biff in Back To The Future. There is a reason why he has hundreds of lawsuits against him.

“Nobody had a problem with him?’

What?

That’s entirely backwards. EVERYBODY had a problem with him until he ran for office. Then suddenly everyone decided that multiple wives, mistresses, foul language, shady business practices, and constant unrepentant lying weren’t “conservative values” any longer.
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This is absolute nonsense.

This isn’t Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Donald Trump is a guy who was the poster child of American excess and abandonment of a moral compass. There’s a reason why he was a regular on the Howard Sterm show. There is a reason why he cameos in porn movies. There is a reason why he was the archetype for Biff in Back To The Future. There is a reason why he has hundreds of lawsuits against him.

“Nobody had a problem with him?’

What?

That’s entirely backwards. EVERYBODY had a problem with him until he ran for office. Then suddenly everyone decided that multiple wives, mistresses, foul language, shady business practices, and constant unrepentant lying weren’t “conservative values” any longer.
Mr Sulu is a regular on Stern too, who the fuck cares? The straws you are grasping for to justify your hate of Trump is amazing. He must be guilty! Liberals hate him! Meanwhile Clinton and Obama actually BROKE laws while in office and you don't give two fucks. No you're not a hypocritical piece of shit, not at all.
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Mr Sulu is a regular on Stern too, who the fuck cares?
Mike Pence.

It’s funny what you call “grasping at straws”.

I’ll let Donald Trump tell you exactly what you are.


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Again, what part of this don’t you understand? An investigation is the process of FINDING proof, or not. NOBODY has proof of a Trump colluding with Russia. All they have is more than ample suspicious activities to warrant an investigation. An investigation that has ALREADY LED TO ARRESTS. So to say what is or is not, at this point, is bullshit pouring out of ones mouth. Maybe Trump is innocent. Maybe he’s guilty. To say one way or the other is like when a dogpile of football players are piled on a fumble. Nobody has any information about what the call should be, but the team-mates on the field, nowhere near the pile, are all Pointing toward their opponents endzone and claiming the ball for their side.
I'd rather see the people in government guilty of actual proven crimes prosecuted. Rather than get a pass because they're democrats.
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You ignore my other points just to focus on the one anecdotal comment where I say nobody had a problem with him? Fine.

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This is absolute nonsense.
Yet the Russia investigation isn't?

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Welcome to politics?

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That's right, because of his popularity.

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There is a reason why he cameos in porn movies.
Movies? Spin much? You are making my point here. He appeared in a single video for Playboy, where all he did was break a bottle of champagne on a car and say a line welcoming the "tour" to New York. That's it. And it's spun as "OMG, TEH DONALD IS IN TEH PRON!!!!". Come on...

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So if one person feels a certain way toward someone else, it's a fact? Gotcha.

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Yes there is: because he's rich.

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What?

That’s entirely backwards. EVERYBODY had a problem with him until he ran for office. Then suddenly everyone decided that multiple wives, mistresses, foul language, shady business practices, and constant unrepentant lying weren’t “conservative values” any longer.
Again you literally just described politics. Why is Trump any different? And anyway, that wasn't what I was referring to. What I was talking about was how now suddenly he is in collusion with the Russian government to overthrow the American people.

Where did this "Russia" story come from anyway? Don't you even question that? Seriously, if the Russians wanted to buy one of our politicians, don't you think they would have chosen someone who actually needed the money? Why did they wait for the richest man to ever hold office?

Nothing about this makes sense, and yet people are still buying it hook, line, and sinker.
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Donald Trump is a guy who was the poster child of American excess and abandonment of a moral compass.
HAHAHAHA!

Liberal fundies, the new morality police. 'You can't say/think/do that!'

HAHAHAHA!

I'd be more than happy to see you get rid of him; welcome to the White House, President Pence.

You're a hilarious moron!
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Moral compass he says, as if putting illegals over Americans just because they realize no one in their right mind would vote for democrats at this point ever again is any sort of display of morals. Get fucked Jaz you fucking traitor.
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This is absolute nonsense.

This isn’t Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Donald Trump is a guy who was the poster child of American excess and abandonment of a moral compass. There’s a reason why he was a regular on the Howard Sterm show. There is a reason why he cameos in porn movies. There is a reason why he was the archetype for Biff in Back To The Future. There is a reason why he has hundreds of lawsuits against him.
Playboy = Porn. So your a conservtive who thinks playboy is porn? Welcome aboard!

Find me a Billionaire that isn't being sued, non stop. You cant.

Trump being on Stern i hate, Stern needs to be beheaded in Times Square for all the damage hes done to American culture. Hopefully Trump saw the visits as business only.


Nobody said that Trump was Mr Smith. The Presidency has been reduced to a joke, starting with clinton and ending with Obama doing his sneaky middle finger bullshit when he beat hillary to the mic drop on the way out.

At this point i want results. Fuck the rest of it. The good named can be restored but if you want to beat rats you have to play by the rats rules.

However, im quickly learning that actually standing up and fighting does not = rat. This is what Trump does, fights back.


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I also don't know if you're a pedophile. Or Elvis. Or an alien lovechild of Bill Clinton from the 90s.
The left uses tactile nihilism to muddy the waters or defuse a debate. Break something down to its furthest logical conclusion, flip it and use that as an argument that can go nowhere. Kinda like a teenage girl.

Its like, yeah no shit dumbass, no one can KNOW anything when it comes to this shitshow of shill and misdirection, its all speculation, oops, your bad for being stupid enough to not assume that right off the bat, also your bad for being so stupid you think speculations cant be thrown back and forth for debates sake. Anyhoo..


Here we go. Obama was in on it, derp. Arrest the mother fucker.
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