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Old 02-08-2017, 07:17 PM   #21
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Intel® Core™ i7-920 Processor
Sockets Supported FCLGA1366

Intel® Core™ i7-965 Processor Extreme Edition
Sockets Supported FCLGA1366

Same socket and chipset. He took the old one out and put a new one in. I wouldn't do that, personally, but it works easy enough.
I think Anenome was surprised at the price. Right now it's on Amazon for ~$110. To get it for ~60 is a deal/steal.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Hyper-T.../dp/B001H5T7PQ
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Didn't know I7's were that cheap. Not really up on my Intel cpus.
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There's several generations of i7. The i7 920 is the first generation, quite old at this point. I have an i7 930, I wanna say it's 7 years old now? Maybe 6... Still running like a champ and keeping up with my 980ti just fine. Although if Intel adds hyper threading to the i5 I think I'll upgrade.
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Old 02-08-2017, 09:57 PM   #24
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Didn't know I7's were that cheap. Not really up on my Intel cpus.
That's because it's an old ass processor. It doesn't even beat my AMD FX-8350. Hell, not even close.
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:07 PM   #25
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I think Anenome was surprised at the price. Right now it's on Amazon for ~$110. To get it for ~60 is a deal/steal.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Hyper-T.../dp/B001H5T7PQ
Ebay prices are better than Amazon. Riskier? Sure. Cheaper, though. Even more amazing: Intel Xeon E5-2640 for like $30-35. Drop it into a $127 Super Micro mobo and you have the base for your system at less than $200.
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Drop it into a $127 Super Micro mobo and you have the base for your system at less than $200.
Yeah I'd melt that sucker into a smoldering heap in three blinks shy of 33 minutes. Freakin' Xeon would choke harder than the Falcons on my workload.
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Yeah I'd melt that sucker into a smoldering heap in three blinks shy of 33 minutes. Freakin' Xeon would choke harder than the Falcons on my workload.
Oh Anenome, dear-sweet Anenome... Nothing could choke that hard.
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:13 AM   #28
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Yeah I'd melt that sucker into a smoldering heap in three blinks shy of 33 minutes. Freakin' Xeon would choke harder than the Falcons on my workload.
Uh... That's exactly what they're designed for, heavy work load on servers. And while Rommel is right it's been my experience that buying a built work station server is less problematic. You can get dual xenon work stations for $300 and up depending the model of xenon.

I don't know what your work load is but a dual xenon work station would crush it.
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Old 02-09-2017, 03:30 AM   #29
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Uh... That's exactly what they're designed for, heavy work load on servers. And while Rommel is right it's been my experience that buying a built work station server is less problematic. You can get dual xenon work stations for $300 and up depending the model of xenon.

I don't know what your work load is but a dual xenon work station would crush it.
Xeons are actually typically slower than consumer-grade chips. Their benefits are different. I don't advocate using a Xeon, except when trying to build a budget machine with surprising punch. In that case, Ebay Xeons offer surprising deals as data centers are often unloading chips for fractions their MSRP.
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Didn't know I7's were that cheap. Not really up on my Intel cpus.
The market is flooded with older i7's and Xeon's from server farms that are being upgraded to newer systems. eBay has some awesome prices on LGA1366 CPU's. The only real expensive part is the X58 motherboard.
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That's because it's an old ass processor. It doesn't even beat my AMD FX-8350. Hell, not even close.
I only use the PC for gaming, and at 1080p. This old ass processor will still be gaming for several more years. I said I was about saving $, not buying a new rig. Show me benchmarks where your FX-8350 paired with a 1060 is significantly more powerful then my i7-965X at 4GHz. Yeah. No huh?
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I just replaced my i7 920 with an i5, got a little bit of performance gain but not enough. Should have waited for the new ones. Meh, it's always my luck that when I decide to upgrade a month later something amazingly better comes out and I'm stuck. oh well
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I only use the PC for gaming, and at 1080p. This old ass processor will still be gaming for several more years. I said I was about saving $, not buying a new rig. Show me benchmarks where your FX-8350 paired with a 1060 is significantly more powerful then my i7-965X at 4GHz. Yeah. No huh?
Okay. I mean, the two of you could just post your firestrike scores if you want to waive your dicks around. Hard to normalize with such a small sample buuuut... Do it. Lemme see your dicks.
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http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i...vs-AMD-FX-8350

Dude, I'm not knocking it. But it IS an old ass CPU. It's 10 years old.
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come on BJC, cpuboss... really? has got to be the single worst and most useless site for this stuff. Rommel gave the right answer with userbench.

has it been ten years already? good lord my system is getting old but so far I see nothing worth upgrading to. if the kaby lake i5 (7600k?) gets hyper threading I'll jump on that bandwagon. Good price for good performance and I can finally upgrade my core (cpu/mobo/ram)
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Also, I'm sick of running out of RAM, STILL. Will it never end? I started this system with 8gb, upgraded to 16gb, which is the max my board will accept, thought it would be a huge amount, but I'm still running at 80% capacity on the regular.

My next thought would be to move up to 32gb, but I'm tempted to move up to 64gb instead, since memory is cheap and I'm sure 32 will end up facing the same problem in time. It's like Windows stretches to fill available memory--you have to stay well ahead of the curve to even have a chance.

I'm doing twenty things at once sometimes, that's how I like it, that's not going to change. System needs to keep up with me.
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people need to get the old ways out of their head. it's ok to fill up your ram. Empty ram is useless ram. Windows does a damn good job of managing system resources these days and unless you have a particularly shitty program that won't cooperate it's not going to matter if your ram is 20% or 80% full, everything should run fine.

if you're curious what windows is doing with your ram: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../ff700229.aspx If it's almost full you'll find there's a lot of paged/nonpaged pool and that is the way it's supposed to be.
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This is good for the consumer without a doubt. My I5 2500k has been running great forever @ 4.8ghz since 2011...and can run everything still. Personally, I'd never buy an AMD cpu, but if it helps getting Intel prices lower, then I'm for it.
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if you're curious what windows is doing with your ram: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../ff700229.aspx If it's almost full you'll find there's a lot of paged/nonpaged pool and that is the way it's supposed to be.
Dude, thanks for that link. I had no idea that the SysInternals suite had been updated with new utilites . I am so behind on things...
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Firefox is actually worse for me. It tops out at 2 gigs and then starts freezing. Multiple windows open for multiple separate workflows doesn't help. Right now it's pushing 1.1gb of ram, and that's pretty low, it's usually more like 1.7gb. Somewhere around 2.2gb to 2.5gb it will become unstable.

I understand the 64-bit rebuild of FFx will allow it to use more than 2gb memory and should solve the freezing issue, but that's not even yet in beta as far as I know.

I started using chrome for youtube videos on the second monitor, becuase FF was choking on that plus the other windows running in parallel. Things are actually much better with that dual-browser setup.

But Solidworks and Blender don't make that load any easier, especially when rendering or building complex assemblies with many parts...

Anyway. Chrome is still a resource hog, even just as a video-mule.
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