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Old 01-07-2020, 10:44 AM   #5661
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But... but... but it's BREITBART! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:47 AM   #5662
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:21 AM   #5663
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But... but... but it's BREITBART! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Oh, of course! The record breaking heat and 3 year drought is all just a mislead. It was really the secret army of the 12 monkeys burning down millions of acres all across Australia to stir up talk about climate change. Not even farmers doing the same burn downs they do every year that burned wildly out of control because of the climate. Definitely the army of the 12 monkeys.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:23 AM   #5664
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Oh, of course! The record breaking heat and 3 year drought is all just a mislead. It was really the secret army of the 12 monkeys burning down millions of acres all across Australia to stir up talk about climate change. Not even farmers doing the same burn downs they do every year that burned wildly out of control because of the climate. Definitely the army of the 12 monkeys.
Yes because hundreds of arrest related to arson means nothing. Liberal logic.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:39 AM   #5665
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Yes because hundreds of arrest related to arson means nothing. Liberal logic.
You know >90% of wildfires are started by humans, right?

The difference with Australia is that extreme drought has led to conditions where instead of it fizzling out after a few hundred meters, it sets the entire continent on fire.
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:06 PM   #5666
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You know >90% of wildfires are started by humans, right?

The difference with Australia is that extreme drought has led to conditions where instead of it fizzling out after a few hundred meters, it sets the entire continent on fire.
Yes when you're deliberately setting dry forest ablaze to agenda push what do you believe the fire is going to do? Gotta push that carbon tax agenda though don't you?
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:21 PM   #5667
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I don't think anyone is arguing that we shouldn't try to contain Iran. They are developing nuclear capabilities. The treaty was only ever an attempt to slow them down, which it was doing by making them operate in secret and give up a significant amount of nuclear materials.
Dude, they have always operated in secret, that was no different than if there was no deal. They didn't slow down one bit. The only thing the deal did was to give them more money which made them stronger. It was completely one sided in favor of Iran. And there is evidence that pulling out of it actually made them weaker.


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All of this is a response to us pulling out of the treaty. We both know it is so lets not pretend it is anything else.

Not only were they already in the process of violating the treaty, they were already in the process of backing out of it themselves.

So pulling out of a one-sided treaty, that they were already in the process of getting out of anyway, makes it OK for them to escalate all they want? "What, you are mad at us for cheating? Then that gives us carte blanche to escalate!" Got it.

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Comparing a small cell of poorly funded terrorists to a sovereign nation with a standing army is a joke. Please stop.
That same "small cell of poorly funded terrorists" who only managed to take down two buildings and commit the largest killing of Americans on American soil. The fact that they don't have a country to worry about makes them far more dangerous as they have nothing to lose. They are no joke.
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:22 PM   #5668
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Yes when you're deliberately setting dry forest ablaze to agenda push what do you believe the fire is going to do? Gotta push that carbon tax agenda though don't you?
"There are, on average, 62,000 fires in Australia every year. Only a very small number strike far from populated areas and satellite studies tell us that lightning is responsible for only 13 per cent."

So why doesn't this happen every year then?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/arso...17-p53bcl.html
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:24 PM   #5669
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"There are, on average, 62,000 fires in Australia every year. Only a very small number strike far from populated areas and satellite studies tell us that lightning is responsible for only 13 per cent."

So why doesn't this happen every year then?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/arso...17-p53bcl.html
Because most years you don't have a bunch of idiots setting fires to agenda push? Not that hard to figure out.
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Dude, they have always operated in secret, that was no different than if there was no deal. They didn't slow down one bit. The only thing the deal did was to give them more money which made them stronger. It was completely one sided in favor of Iran. And there is evidence that pulling out of it actually made them weaker.
Iran handed over 98% of their uranium stockpile, so obviously they were slowed down. There is no getting around this fact. You are lying.

"Iran's uranium stockpile was reduced by 98% to 300kg (660lbs), a figure that must not be exceeded until 2031. It must also keep the stockpile's level of enrichment at 3.67%."

"By January 2016, Iran had drastically reduced the number of centrifuges installed at Natanz and Fordo, and shipped tonnes of low-enriched uranium to Russia."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655

This is the article that you cited: " It would also still take Iran at least a year to amass enough weapons-grade fuel for a weapon; before the deal, the so-called “breakout time” was about two to three months."


Your other link is just about sanctions doing economic damage to Iran. No Shit. That is why they started blowing up tankers and attacked our embassy.


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Not only were they already in the process of violating the treaty, they were already in the process of backing out of it themselves. https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/201...s-nuclear-deal
Stop making fake arguments. Every single example of a breach here happened after we pulled out of the treaty and sanctioned Iran. From your own article: "But on May 3, 2019, the United States vowed to sanction any country or company that helped Iran sell or exchange surplus, which left it with few alternatives to remain in compliance with the JCPOA. In retaliation, Tehran announced it would no longer honor the limit on its stockpile. On July 1, it accelerated the rate of production fourfold. "

Stop making dishonest arguments based on information that you know is false. Stop comparing people who hijacked some planes with pocket knives to sovereign nations with real armies and long range missiles.
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:38 PM   #5671
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Because most years you don't have a bunch of idiots setting fires to agenda push? Not that hard to figure out.
Do you not understand that what you are saying makes no sense? Every year 62k fires happen in Australia. They don't run wild.

What is different this year? Not an insane army of the 12 monkeys conspiracy theory.
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:39 PM   #5672
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Since when do you care about a nation's sovereignty Eats?
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Old 01-07-2020, 12:40 PM   #5673
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I thought this guy was an Iranian General?
He was. The army he was General of is designated as a terrorist organization.

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Are you kidding?
No, I'm not kidding. He led an FTO. Also, the context of what I was replying to was this:

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Explain to me how going in and completely fucking up iran and its 82 million people...
As in, we didn't go in and completely fuck up Iran, we took out the head of a foreign terrorist organization. Yeah, he was also a General in Iraq. So what, that doesn't change the fact that he was a terrorist leader who was responsible for the deaths of over 600 Americans. And you seem to think that leaving him alive to kill even more Americans (which intelligence says he was getting ready to do) was the preferred option.

Will people die after this? Maybe. Would they have died had this not happened? Unquestionably.
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Old 01-07-2020, 03:16 PM   #5674
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Not even farmers doing the same burn downs they do every year that burned wildly out of control because of the climate. Definitely the army of the 12 monkeys.
Actually, they aren't doing burn-downs. It's illegal thanks to environmentalist policies. The video that Chief posted above shows that a volunteer firefighter was fined $100,000 for doing a burn-down. Guess who's house is still standing?

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The difference with Australia is that extreme drought has led to conditions where instead of it fizzling out after a few hundred meters, it sets the entire continent on fire.
Actually, its because of the policy of outlawing fire-breaks that there is so much to burn. Also, drought is usually caused by colder than normal temperatures. In fact, Australia just had it's coldest summer day on record. Oh, does that not fit the narrative?

You are flippantly discounting facts about arson while making up other things to fit your narrative. Not a good look.
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The bushfires this year so far have burned 21,000,000 acres, killed 25 people, and destroyed around 1700 homes.

The 1974-75 bushfires burned around 250,000,000 acres, the one in 2002 37,000,000 acres.

The 2009 bushfires killed 173 people, with various others killing 60 or 70 people in the first half of the 20th century.

The 2009 fires also destroyed 2000 homes + 2000 other buildings.

In short these bushfires, while bad, aren't unprecedented. Even if they were, attributing a single incident to "climate change" is fucking retarded. Climate by definition is measured over a longer period of time, usually 30 years, but with extraordinary events the time periods often have to be even longer, for the simple reasons that extraordinary might mean these meteorological events take place less than once every 30 years.

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Yes because hundreds of arrest related to arson means nothing. Liberal logic.
It was 24 arrests and 183 charged or cautioned. This is also nothing new for Australia. Throwing a lit cigarette butt on the ground is included in those stats, together with a shit load of other dumb, but mundane things that might start a bushfire. Thinking this was some conspiracy to push the climate change agenda by starting fires is just as retarded as attributing these fires to climate change. The attention it's been getting is nothing more than usual media hype.

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...sing-us-troops


It begins. So now we hit them back I guess? Good thing we have a plan and don't just make random decisions with no forethought.

Let's say we hit a bunch of their military installations. They will just conduct guerrilla attacks on us all over the ME. They are already sanctioned so if this spikes the oil economy it only hurts us. They have nothing to lose unless we launch a full scale invasion or start hitting civilian targets.

Unlike fighting a terrorist network we can't just annihilate them with drone strikes.

Because we hit them so hard even if we don't respond they are going to hit us again.
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Bet it makes you downright giddy that these missiles were launched. The thing is, you know Jack shit what our military has planned. Nor did you have any criticisms here when the Obama administration was launching drone strikes and dropping bombs faster than your frat buddies were dropping roofies.
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Bet it makes you downright giddy that these missiles were launched.
The fuck is wrong with you? The only thing it was was an extremely predictable response.

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Nor did you have any criticisms here when the Obama administration was launching drone strikes and dropping bombs
On terrorists, not generals. Stop trying to pretend it is the same. It is not.
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The fuck is wrong with you? The only thing it was was an extremely predictable response.



On terrorists, not generals. Stop trying to pretend it is the same. It is not.
LOL a guy responsible for 600 American deaths isn't a terrorist in Eats book, how predictable. At any rate I'm sure Bibi is rubbing his hands together furiously at the idea of a proxy war with Iran.
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On terrorists
On American citizens, as judge, jury, and executioner. But hey, what difference at this point does it make?

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It begins.
You dumbass, they launched missiles at us BEFORE the killing of Soleimani, and in fact killed an American contractor and injured other Americans. It didn't just "BEGIN" with Trump killing several of the men with the most American blood on their hands.

The fuck you smoking?
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